Kanzenshuu

Yeah, by what we know of that whole scheme, Buff Boo would have to be weaker than Gotenks-Boo but stronger than Evil Boo.

First off, that bit of "filler" is legit considering the text, secondly, it's pretty darn clear that Goku would've lost that fight had his energy not been restored. Goku wasn't Buu's equal. Maybe in terms of power, but not in terms of stamina. Goku was worn out, but Buu looked fine the en...

I believe he can sense ki too. He knew Goku wasn't dead from his death beams, citing his strength. As for what Cooler thought, wouldn't it make sense for him to be thinking of his brother's full power when comparing someone to him? I think it'd be a little odd for him to go, "Hm, you're enough ...

Sorry, I should have clarified that that was all I could find for the Potara in the Daizenshuu only.

Where did Boo push back the Genki-Dama in the manga? That specific thing could only be attributed to him in the anime, where we all should know how messed up Toei made things. I used to think Pure Boo was the be-all-end-all ultimate monster, stronger than anything ever, but that was in 2006-2007ish,...

Was Base Goku really as strong as Movie 5 portrayed him to be? After their short scuffle, Cooler said Goku was "enough" to have defeated Freeza, and then after Super Saiyan Goku had beaten his ass, he said that was when he realized Freeza was "no match" for Goku. This seems compl...

The much-valued treasure of the Kaioshin. If two people take one each and fit it on their respective ears, one on the left and one on the right, in an instant they will unite together and power up. The principle is the same as the Fusion technique, but the effect is greater than Fusion. Furthermore...

Double ring-out to please both sides of the fence.

Who would be scarier to you? A) a psychopathic little kid with bipolar disorder that murdered your family, can't be reasoned with, and will flip his lid at the drop of a hat, or B) a serial killing bodybuilder who follows an obvious pattern, never does things for "shock value," and is pret...

That's where we differ, and why I'm not trying to continue the debate.

I agree. There is no "suppressed" Super Saiyan 3 Goku. There's only Super Saiyan 3 Goku. Did the whole suppressed thing start because Goku said he was holding back? I mean, aside from maybe my time on MFG, I've never taken that to mean he was holding back power, since I think it's ludicrou...

No, you don't understand what I'm saying, and I'm sure trying to thoroughly explain it would turn into another Goten/Trunks vs No.18 debate, which this thread isn't.

So I guess I'll leave it at that.

RandomGuy96 wrote:It's not conjecture; Krillin told her to hold back. The second line, maybe, but not PURE conjecture, since she looks completely bored.

You added the "heavily" part, hence why I called it conjecture. I know Krillin told her to hold back. Anything beyond that is your own opinion.

Recently I've been on the fence about Majinian Vegeta and Super Saiyan 2 Goku being more powerful than an enraged Super Saiyan 2 Kid Gohan. Gohan's power was boosted by rage the whole time he fought Cell (after transforming, of course), right?

The base kids never held their own against 18; I have no idea where this myth came from. She was told to hold back heavily in the tournament by Krillin, and showed that she was capable of doing so and had been doing so the entire tournament, yet still handed the base kids their asses without even t...

This whole messy debate, where there's even strong evidence in the original manga for Goku being the strongest (non-Fusion) hero, is why I'm satisfied with my "Gotenks and Gohan are stronger but not by all that much" stance. Goku stronger than Fantastic Gohan? Don't tell me you're in that...

Yeah, I view Goku's statement as a general one, but a specific one.

Only Vegetto has had spark as a Super Saiyan, and that was for one panel during his initial transformation.

If that isn't a confirmation ("silent confirmation," if you will), then what would be? A blatant statement from him proclaiming that Goku was right? Just curious what you think in that regard. Well, that's kind of what I'm pointing out. Usually when one person is stronger than the other, ...

My stance is that Piccolo's reactions are key. Base Gotenks "You're strong, sure, but you're no match for Boo the way you are now." Keep in mind he wouldn't be including Super Saiyan in that strength comparison. Super Saiyan Gotenks "Your power certainly is incredible, but how about y...