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I don't understand why people say 18 being able to fight Ribrianne makes no sense. Ribrianne isn't that strong. She's SSJ1 level at best, and in the most recent episodes she couldn't even beat base Vegeta. Because people have this headcanon of her being SSB-level+ and it doesn't gel with what we've...

Big Chief wrote:

namekiansaiyan wrote:

perucho1990 wrote:
The writers would have no say and would be Toriyama's decision and this seems like a battle for 17 to finally go full power.

Toriyama seems like the type of person who would keep McRib around to the end, looking at some of the things he's done.

That is an interesting comparison.

I say it's time for U7 to lose some. Actually I think they both can lose :) I've waited for this moment for so f*cking long. :clap: :wave: Can finally start watching the show again. Oh, thank god you're back, mate. We lose a lot without your thoughts in these weeks of Caulifla and Kale episodes. I ...

Lord Beerus wrote:[spoiler]CAULIFLA AND KALE ARE OUT[/spoiler]

I've waited for this moment for so f*cking long.

Can finally start watching the show again.

Actually, people only really got arc fatigue with the recruitments. For the tournament, people don't think the pace has drag except for the few episode before the one-hour special. After that, most fans feel that these have been some of the best episodes in the arc. Unlike here, people have been en...

Nope,as you can see Vegito keeps getting figurines despite appearing for like 5 minutes and doing mostly nothing. Except for beating the hell out of Majin Buu and Zamasu and just being an all-around badass... :wink: For five minutes. Before defusing. Then getting his ass handed to him. Why do peopl...

Those figurines really seem to prove the idea of Saiyans selling above all else. I think the only recent merchandise which did not involve Super Saiyan or Saiyans in general were some Jiren and Hit toys. I guess a Roshi or #18 figurine from the recent arc doesn't sound as appealing as Kale, Vegeta ...

YonedgeHP wrote:

perucho1990 wrote:Man, he is aging fast, now its more understandable the current quality of the ToP and overusing Goku.

What does that have to do with anything?

C'mon, really?

How could you not tell that was obvious bait?

No. Characters like Hit and Toppo already have had several episodes dedicated to them. It's only fair if Kale and Caulifla get the same treatment, regardless of you how feel about them. Nice try, but no. Toppo has not had 6+ episodes dedicated to him and only him. That's just utterly false . They'r...

Honestly I hope these spoilers are fake. It seems like way too many episodes dedicated to U2 and U6 girls, while 17, 18, U6 Namekians and seemingly all the other fighters get almost nothing. I would rather see a one or two episodes dedicated to Vegeta vs Toppo. And considering Hit only got 2 episod...

Knocking out the remaining U6 Saiyans in glorious fashion. Nothing else matters after that.

Helped that Kale has become a likeable character, getting rid of her Broly form is for the best, now she is her own character, with room of improvement. Not really likeable yet. Better. But if you think saying "sis" every time instead of "SON GOKU" is an improvement, be my guest...

The Universe 6 Kaioshin straight up says that the Saiyans in his universe have undergone a different evolution than the Universe 7 Saiyans in episode 37. Whether the argument is about the SSJ transformation or not, I don't know how much clearer you can get that these saiyans are different. Well the...

It kinda is. Hybrids are stated to have more potential than full blooded ones since the Saiyan arc, so not a really good comparison with Caulifla and Kale that are Saiyans from another universe which probably had many battles and yet never achieved the transformation before, until Cabba told them a...

Caulifla and Kale acquire Super Saiyan easily just as Trunks and Goten did before them. I...don't see this being an issue. It kinda is. Hybrids are stated to have more potential than full blooded ones since the Saiyan arc, so not a really good comparison with Caulifla and Kale that are Saiyans from...

Toriyama don't usually developed characters who are just one-offs. The last time tournament fighters got this amount of focused and development was for Tien and Piccolo. Cali and Kale are are also not the main antagonists of the arc, so why would Toriyama or Toei bothered to developed them and even...

Is it just more or I feel like Cauli and Kale are getting all this rushed development is because they'll be one-hit wonders and after this never really appear again? just like "Look, female SSJs there happy? Ok bye." One could only hope. Although, there are a few people clamoring for a U6...

Does anyone else think Toei are deliberately trying to annoy fans by teasing Toppo vs Vegeta along with Piccolo and Gohan vs Saonel and Pilina and then not showing anything? At least they're getting this Kale/Caulifla garbage out of the way right now, rather than later. I hope you understand though...

Goku doesn't fit the definition of a Sue unless you're really loose with it. Correct. The only sue in Dragon ball currently is Caulifla. :wink: A sue is a self insert character. Perhaps Toriyama sees himself in Caulifla lol They aren't only self inserts, btw. They tend to be, but not being a proper...

HeroR wrote:Goku doesn't fit the definition of a Sue unless you're really loose with it.

Correct. The only sue in Dragon ball currently is Caulifla.