Kanzenshuu

Wouldn't make sense, nah
Vegito remains the pinnacle of z since he has something to scale him amongst DBGT high tiers while kid Buu is literally the starting point for base Goku and uub to scale GT from.

Vegito only tried a bit more actively against rage buuhan, he never went full power

Relevant follow-up question of my own... did the anime actually remove the line where SS3 Goku regrets breaking the Potara, claiming it could have done the job against Pure Boo? Or was that line just put somewhere else in all of the anime arc's extra back-and-forth shenanigans? Because I went to ch...

To be fair, it was implied that Goku in his child's body wasnt as strong as adult SSJ3 so he was gimped as well. Implied in a "fight" with Goten when baby didn't literally react to anything his enemy did because he just waited for him to release his power to take him over? Yes I wouldn't ...

Baby stacked his own power on top of Vegeta. I always assumed Teen Baby was weak, but after he got his grown up body (which we see after he leaves Vegeta), he was around Kid Buu level. This is absolutely wrong since , from the moment he's presented to us, baby is said to be stronger than Rildo by d...

Well for what I can tell, future trunks in the manga has a sort of FPSSJ2, while FPSSJ3 is just a SSJ3 used while dead in the afterlife , where you don't have the stamina drain problem and can fight at full power way longer ( or Cumber's, if you want to consider heroes too)

Baby stacked his own power on top of Vegeta. I always assumed Teen Baby was weak, but after he got his grown up body (which we see after he leaves Vegeta), he was around Kid Buu level. This is absolutely wrong since , from the moment he's presented to us, baby is said to be stronger than Rildo by d...

Vegeta just becomes a lot stronger because GT logic, since normal Vegeta was just a bit stronger than baby Gohan but SSJ baby Vegeta could compete with SSJ3 Goku

Does (A's strongest shared form + B's strongest shared form x3 = base Metamoran fusion) and (A's max power + B's max power x100 = base Potara form) work for the fusion dance and Potara fusion? If the fusions confuse you, think about it like this. Goku and Vegeta both share Super Saiyan Blue right n...

How does Fat Boo compare to the SSJ2s and SSJ3s in the Boo Saga? With a 4x gap between both forms, there’s a lot of room for Boo, and his fight with SSJ3 Goku doesn’t make things clearer. Right in the middle between both forms is the lowest I’d go, it’s a good middle ground. I think I prefer him to...

So I finished up to the end of the shadow dragons arc with Ss5 Goku, does anyone have a quick run down in what has been going on since then? Rather uninspired arc with an enemy named spoitz that's basically a Jiren with cell's tail who got beated by Goku ssj5 but 4 was enough, then now we have the ...

Wait what guide is that from? It's a shueisha anime guide Intreasting. Sounds like Shueisha was just trying to place it in the timeline despite it not fitting at all. Anyway it's official They try to place every movie even if it might not fit in , but the other scan speaks for itself anyway

Lol. This guidebook was not made by TOEI and it states it takes place before the Cell Games which is wrong because the Cell Games never existed in the Manga until 7 months later. TOEI wanted to have Kami retired in the Garlic Jr Saga. PIccolo is not even shown to be as strong as his pre Kami state ...

Hi! Did anyone here do any power level list for the granola arc? I'd like to see some since I never scaled it and frankly don't want to go through a re read of that pain in the ass of an arc to scale it.

Thanks

He was kami before... Piccolo already merged. I don't see why coming up with so convoluted explanations for things that are much easier. The toei anime guide 2 itself gives a sort of timelines placing for the movies, and for metal cooler... It's set in the 10 days gap before the cell games. Toei it...

He was kami before... Piccolo already merged. I don't see why coming up with so convoluted explanations for things that are much easier. The toei anime guide 2 itself gives a sort of timelines placing for the movies, and for metal cooler... It's set in the 10 days gap before the cell games. Toei its...

Hellspawn28 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 12, 2023 4:54 pm Janemba vs. SSj3 Gotenks

Who wins?

Janemba casually

1. BoG SSJ3 Goku (pre-God) vs Super Buu, Buutenks and Buuhan 2. SSJ2 Raging Vegeta (BoG) vs Super Buu, Buutenks and Buuhan 3. SSJ3 Vegito (Buu) vs SSJG Goku (BoG) 4. SSJ4 Goku (Baby) vs SSJG Goku (BoG) 5. SSJ4 Gogeta runs this gauntlet. How far does he get? - Golden Frieza (RoF) - Hit - SSJB KKx10 ...

Anyway, that idea is completely ignored in the anime and seems to be used just twice in the manga (vs hit by Goku and vs Goku black by vegeta), and in that occasions what I call SSJ Chou wasn't all that weaker than ssj god. I didn't see anything in the Goku vs Hit fight that could even imply Super ...

GatoF wrote: ↑Tue Nov 01, 2022 10:01 pm At what tier would Ultimate Piccolo be if he loses Kami and Nail?

Maybe just 10 times weaker (2 for kami and ≈ 5 for nail)

I feel like we're clinging too much on something that is very much outdated with every sentence Toriyama said in that answer. I assume you are talking about this . Firstly, that was in 2014, so it was pretty much an idea tied to what would be presented in Movie 15, released one year later. But as w...