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by DBZAOTA482
Sun Aug 28, 2022 10:39 am
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Is Dragon Ball the biggest manga/anime series globally?
Replies: 161
Views: 10607

Re: Is Dragon Ball the biggest manga/anime series globally?

Again, you've been told by multiple people this is provabley false Here's Siskel and Ebert two of the most well known movie critics talking about Akira in the late 80s https://youtu.be/LUjQfgbCmSY Note Ebert mentioned the manga was a best seller in Japan AND America https://youtu.be/GEGzjlPk7sM The...
by DBZAOTA482
Sun Aug 28, 2022 9:59 am
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Is Dragon Ball the biggest manga/anime series globally?
Replies: 161
Views: 10607

Re: Is Dragon Ball the biggest manga/anime series globally?

I know you've been told this before. Anime was popular in the States long before DBZ crossed over. It was but it was still a relatively niche market. In fact, anime didn't truly become mainstream in the west till around the mid 2000s. DBZ got big when the anime boom was just beginning. https://www....
by DBZAOTA482
Sun Aug 28, 2022 9:43 am
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Is Dragon Ball the biggest manga/anime series globally?
Replies: 161
Views: 10607

Re: Is Dragon Ball the biggest manga/anime series globally?

I know you've been told this before. Anime was popular in the States long before DBZ crossed over. It was but it was still a relatively niche market. In fact, anime didn't truly become mainstream in the west till around the mid 2000s. DBZ got big when the anime boom was just beginning. https://www....
by DBZAOTA482
Sun Aug 28, 2022 8:40 am
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Is Dragon Ball the biggest manga/anime series globally?
Replies: 161
Views: 10607

Re: Is Dragon Ball the biggest manga/anime series globally?

It also made a lot of people shy away from anime because they were thinking all anime was like Pokémon. Like I said, the Pokemon anime gets basically no respect nowadays (and rightfully so because it's garbage). Dragon Ball has its critics for sure (especially the debatably canon stuff) but since i...
by DBZAOTA482
Sun Aug 28, 2022 1:35 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Didn't like the movie doggin' my boy Krillin
Replies: 15
Views: 1491

Re: Didn't like the movie doggin' my boy Krillin

JulieYBM wrote: Sun Aug 28, 2022 12:34 am I'd have agreed before 2015 but with Kuririn now being a cop he no longer gets any sympathy from me. :p
That's not fair. There's some good cops in the world.
by DBZAOTA482
Sun Aug 28, 2022 1:15 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Didn't like the movie doggin' my boy Krillin
Replies: 15
Views: 1491

Re: Didn't like the movie doggin' my boy Krillin

I don't like people being ridiculed just for trying. That's like making fun of a fat person for going to the gym.

Don't shit on people for wanting to better themselves.

It's fucking evil and hits too close to home.
by DBZAOTA482
Sun Aug 28, 2022 12:31 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Didn't like the movie doggin' my boy Krillin
Replies: 15
Views: 1491

Didn't like the movie doggin' my boy Krillin

They think now Yamcha and Tien are too weak to be of any relevance they can just pick on Krillin. It was kinda annoying to see Bulma of all people making fun of how weak he is when he can blink her of existence.

Stop bullying the human warriors.
by DBZAOTA482
Sat Aug 27, 2022 10:25 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Is Dragon Ball the biggest manga/anime series globally?
Replies: 161
Views: 10607

Re: Is Dragon Ball the biggest manga/anime series globally?

https://i.redd.it/pmu1eicndnp81.jpg Shonen protagonists going from brolic manly men to skinny whimps was less Dragon Ball and more a bastardization of Yu Yu Hakusho's appeal to female readers. Reach for the stars, my boy! Goku's attitude is boyish well into adulthood. He becomes wiser and more pers...
by DBZAOTA482
Sat Aug 27, 2022 8:07 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Is Dragon Ball the biggest manga/anime series globally?
Replies: 161
Views: 10607

Re: Is Dragon Ball the biggest manga/anime series globally?

Its literally been stated flat out directly by Torishima himself. Whatever the case, if Toriyama was actively trying to make the next Hokuto no Ken, we'd be seeing a lot more hyper masculine muscular men as shonen protagonists. Instead Goku was a boy who grew into a man both physically and mentally...
by DBZAOTA482
Sat Aug 27, 2022 4:26 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Akira Toriyama getting cancelled (not really: contextless, disingenuous social media videos)
Replies: 82
Views: 11405

Re: Akira Toriyama getting cancelled (not really: contextless, disingenuous social media videos)

Stuff Trust me, I do my research. I'm well aware obesity used to be considered a desired body type but the fact it no longer is shows society had come to their senses in that regard. I'm also well aware there's a group of people that fetishize that shit but there's also people who fetishize masochi...
by DBZAOTA482
Sat Aug 27, 2022 3:42 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Is Dragon Ball the biggest manga/anime series globally?
Replies: 161
Views: 10607

Re: Is Dragon Ball the biggest manga/anime series globally?

Torishima told Toriyama to go the battle manga route because the readership for Dragon Ball was declining. He never pointed to Hokuto no Ken specifically. In fact, Toriyama went out of his way to subvert what HnK was doing. Its literally been stated flat out directly by Torishima himself. M: Even s...
by DBZAOTA482
Sat Aug 27, 2022 3:08 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Is Dragon Ball the biggest manga/anime series globally?
Replies: 161
Views: 10607

Re: Is Dragon Ball the biggest manga/anime series globally?

What exactly is the "pot of gold" in this little analogy of yours, and who are the leprechauns? The point is Dragon Ball became a basic template for many other works in the media. Doesn't matter if it wasn't the first of its kind, it still resonated with people in ways those other titles ...
by DBZAOTA482
Sat Aug 27, 2022 1:52 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Akira Toriyama getting cancelled (not really: contextless, disingenuous social media videos)
Replies: 82
Views: 11405

Re: Akira Toriyama getting cancelled (not really: contextless, disingenuous social media videos)

Brodes wrote: Sat Aug 27, 2022 1:00 pm
DBZAOTA482 wrote: Sat Aug 27, 2022 10:24 am
JulieYBM wrote: Sat Aug 27, 2022 10:10 am

Is this really a point you think that you need to make? Is this really the case you want to take pro bono like this?
Everything that comes out of my mouth has a point, sis.
I've been watching you post for years, and I dont think this is correct.
That sounds kinda sus, my dude (tte).
by DBZAOTA482
Sat Aug 27, 2022 10:24 am
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Akira Toriyama getting cancelled (not really: contextless, disingenuous social media videos)
Replies: 82
Views: 11405

Re: Akira Toriyama getting cancelled (not really: contextless, disingenuous social media videos)

I'm sure Toriyama ain't too proud of the self-depreciate jokes he made in the past, but he doesn't have to apologize for anything. Is this really a point you think that you need to make? Is this really the case you want to take pro bono like this? Everything that comes out of my mouth has a point, ...
by DBZAOTA482
Sat Aug 27, 2022 9:20 am
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Akira Toriyama getting cancelled (not really: contextless, disingenuous social media videos)
Replies: 82
Views: 11405

Re: Akira Toriyama getting cancelled (not really: contextless, disingenuous social media videos)

I'm sure Toriyama ain't too proud of the self-depreciate jokes he made in the past, but he doesn't have to apologize for anything.
by DBZAOTA482
Fri Aug 26, 2022 7:10 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: How would the Dragon Ball fandom react if Jiren were made into a gay man?
Replies: 368
Views: 15316

Re: How would the Dragon Ball fandom react if Jiren were made into a gay man?

Xeno Goku Black wrote: Fri Aug 26, 2022 7:04 pmDon't tell me you're assuming you think he finds her unattractive because she's fat. That'd be fatphobic of you.
I mean she's not bad-looking. She's just really fat.
by DBZAOTA482
Fri Aug 26, 2022 7:05 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: How would the Dragon Ball fandom react if Jiren were made into a gay man?
Replies: 368
Views: 15316

Re: How would the Dragon Ball fandom react if Jiren were made into a gay man?

And someone being obese doesn't justify mockery. It doesn't. But it doesn't mean fat jokes can't be funny. Are you Tess Holiday's doctor? Why does everyone always think they're a health expert? It's common knowledge obesity is unhealthy. The human body isn't meant to carry that much excess weight. ...
by DBZAOTA482
Fri Aug 26, 2022 6:13 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: How would the Dragon Ball fandom react if Jiren were made into a gay man?
Replies: 368
Views: 15316

Re: How would the Dragon Ball fandom react if Jiren were made into a gay man?

stuff I haven't watch porn in months and never went to a strip club but the fact obesity was ever considered a standard of beauty is really problematic. It's killing more and more people each year and people like Tess Holiday are making the world a worse place with their horrible message. There's n...
by DBZAOTA482
Fri Aug 26, 2022 5:33 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: How would the Dragon Ball fandom react if Jiren were made into a gay man?
Replies: 368
Views: 15316

Re: How would the Dragon Ball fandom react if Jiren were made into a gay man?

The joke is that Roshi doesn't like fat women. In fact, people in general don't find fat people attractive. It's not offensive at all. It's reality. Plus it's been established from the beginning Roshi doesn't like fat women so I don't mind that part. My problem is that DBS made Roshi into a borderl...