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Piccolo (BoG) vs SSJ1 Goku (Buu saga) SSJ Rage Trunks (peak, no spirit sword) vs Android 17 (ToP anime) Ultimate Gohan (Moro arc) vs Base Gogeta (DBS Broly) SSBE Vegeta (before the pride boost) vs Golden Freeza (DBS Broly) Base Gotenks (before ROSAT training) vs Android 16 1. Piccolo in BoG is prob...

What if instead of a Gogeta appearing in the Broly arc, Vegeta had obtained UE during the events of the movie. How would that change events from that saga and later arcs?

SSJ2 Gogeta (DBS Broly) vs UI Omen Goku (ToP Kefla fight) Krillin (ToP anime) vs all 7 Cell jrs. SSJR Goku Black (anime peak, scythe) vs Merged Zamasu (manga, no immortality) SSJ4 Goku (17 arc) vs SSJ3 Vegito (Buu saga) SSJ Rage Trunks (peak, no spirit sword) vs Berserk Kale (manga) Piccolo (Post-T...

What if Granollah, Monaito and the Heeters appeared in earlier arcs of Super? Perhaps if Granny fought alongside Goku and the others he would already have realized that not all Saiyans are bad? Would he just end up giving his abilities to Moro? I have a feeling that Freeza would have "befriend...

Thani wrote: ↑Thu Jan 20, 2022 10:55 pm Gas was strong, but there is nothing to suggest he could tangle with anything beyond Namek Freeza.

I doubt pre-wish Granolah was that week. For gas to slaughter him. Granolah was able to defeat a bunch of 7/3’s, who on base should be around the stronger members of the Z-warriors.

How far does Gas (pre-wish) go in Z and super before getting taken down? Gas was very strong, but considering how much Heata avoided a direct confrontation with the revived Freeza, I doubt he compares to god level fighters. Maybe he would be a formidable opponent for Majin Boo. They are somewhat si...

New Fight

How far does Gas (pre-wish) go in Z and super before getting taken down?

-Buuhan
-Ssj Vegito
-God Goku (BoG)
-Golden Frieza (Rof)
-Hit (U6)
-Ssj Rose Black
-GoD Toppo

If I could have anyone.

1. Goku
2. Vegeta
3. Gas
4. Frieza
5. Broly
6. Granolah
7. Buu
8. 17
9. Gohan
10. Piccolo

What if Goku was somehow revived with the Namekian Dragon Balls before the Boo arc? How would it change with Goku being alive throughout the entire arc? If he is revived right after cell games. A lot of stuff happens. He continues his training with Gohan. Helps raise goten. Fights Vegeta every once...

What if Granolah made his wish during the saiyan saga? He would be as strong as the strongest warrior at that time. So in this case, he would be stronger than either Buu, Broly, or Imprisoned Moro. I don’t think Moro was that strong then. It took him at least another 20 years to get enough power to...

SSB Gogeta vs Awakened Jiren UE Vegeta vs Full Power Broly (DBS) SSJ4 Goku (17 arc) vs SSJ3 Vegito (Buu saga) 1. I have SSB Gogeta under ToP MUI Goku and LB Jiren. Or at the very least in the same level. I think Jiren can pull this off. 2. Vegeta wins with some difficulty. He is at the very least t...

What can make all these Beerus plot holes make sense. If Toriyama just says that “Beerus has been secretly training. Off screen. Since the ToP.” He became afraid and motivated by Goku’s progression. And doesn’t want to be left behind.

What if Whis learned of Granolah and the Heeters before the ToP? What do you think Beerus would offer them if they decided to help? And do you think Gas and Granolah would be better replacements to people like Krillin and tien? How would things change after this encounter in future arcs?

What if Super happened after GT? "GT" is too short to search for here. Goku would be found by Beerus and Whis, in whatever realm Goku was. Goku would attempt to fight the god with his Ssj4. Loses horribly. Beerus searches for the Ssj god. And everything goes the same. Ssjgod and blue are ...

Elecc had access to 7-3 and Zuno, they all know about Moro, so unless they are like the audience and can't really tell how strong is a person without the proper context, they should know Moro >>>> Freeza. And Goku>>>Moro. On their defense, we don't know how did they learn about 7-3's data, if it wa...

I don't think Gas is anything special at the moment. The Heeters have been getting by using strategy and getting the stronger guys to fight each other while they collect the DBs to give Gas a power up. They're probably all Saiyan to Namek Saga levels. Shouldn't we trust Elec, who is being portrayed...

Elecc said only Gas could be able to surpass Freeza, so I just don't know. I assume they are talking about DBS FF Freeza, so Gas would be below non-Golden Freeza, which seemed to be SS Caulifla tier. I assume by the ToP she was at the SS level of U7. Gas might be a bit below SS level, although with...

However, Goku , nor any of the saiyan in their base forms were stronger then Frieza. According to Beerus. I doubt someone like Beerus would be fooled by someone suppressing themselves. I think people over estimate the saiyan’s growth in super. It’s not like z or original series. I think some of the...

Beating any kind of GoD-level opponent without UI, UE or Blue Fusions would be awful to me. You know, I read this statement like: "Beating any kind of Freeza-like opponent without Super Saiyan would be awful to me" Back to the fandom discussions prior to 2013 where people wondered if the ...

What if Babidi use #17 for his mind slave instead using of Spopovich and Yamu? I'm unsure if 17 has enough maliciousness in him for him to fall under Babidi's spell. But I kinda feel it makes someone's energy overflow which with the infinite energy you have to wonder how far it would go. Perhaps hi...