Kanzenshuu

You mean when he fires that big Kamehameha on Zamasu? Nah. I don't think Toriyama was counting on these asspull moments when he said Goku and Vegeta could handle Zamasu together. Really? What about Jiren and Broly being said to be stronger than him? No. I mean the rage boost he gets in episode 61. ...

I'm talking about Goku. Vegeta obviously got stronger by going to the RoSaT. I don't think anyone has surpassed Beerus yet. Not even SSB Gogeta. You mean when he fires that big Kamehameha on Zamasu? Nah. I don't think Toriyama was counting on these asspull moments when he said Goku and Vegeta could...

1) Or he got a rage boost that was permanent like the anime. 2) How does it make more sense? The anime had a very valid reason why Zamasu matched Vegetto. 1) The overall idea is that he got in the Rosat, trained and came out stronger. Saying rage was his fuel is just a secondary thing. 2) If Gogeta...

So I made this list trying to mix all 3 versions into a definitive scale of DBS. Wasn't sure if it would fit better here or on the power levels thread, so I posted it there and thought I'd share the link here.

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I made a list for DBS, but there's a catch: this is for all versions of it at once. Since there's contradictions between each medium yet all are canon, plus Toriyama is bound to forget a lot of stuff. In a way, this is both a power level list and an educated guess on what the story of DBS is in AT's...

How strong would Krilin be if he had saiyan biology? not Goku's drive to become stronger and stronger and fight everybody, just a power boost after recovering from serious injuries. We know he used to get owned pretty often, so if those beatings had a zenkai boost attached to them, how strong would...

Imagine if next chapter starts with Gohan missing lol

31st of this month.

Going entirely by the movie, I wonder if it could be that the Gammas are ~ SSJB Goku (ToP/Broly) and Orange Piccolo = SSJB Goku (Current). It's the easiest explanation, but it seems like Toriyama doesn't imagine Goku and Vegeta improving much throughout Super, outside of new transformations. We don’...

I've seen a few japanese speakers say that "many times stronger" is sort of an umbrella term for single digit numbers. I think that makes 5x a good middle ground, specially if merging with Kami (which is commonly agreed to be a 2x boost) makes him on pair with 1st form Freeza. Piccolo: 250...

Every SSJ transformation in the movie goes through different colors. Tbf I can see the Gammas getting smashed by Saganbo, this is a Gohan who hasn’t trained who’s beating Gamma 1. Maybe SH Gohan is stronger because of rage or maybe he trained some more before slacking, maybe not. All I’m sure of is ...

So what's next it's gotta be one of four things: 1. New content. 33% chance 2. Hiatus. 33% 3. Adapting Daima. 33% 4. Adapting rof or broly. 1% chance. If Daima gets it's own adaptation by someone other than toyo then obviously the other options have a better shot. I don't see them willingly spoilin...

Couldn't UI Goku be actually enough to stop Broly? I know the whole thing about not only needing a fusion, it's SSJ form but also Blue to stop was because Broly kept increasing his power non-stop... But I still feel to this day that was pretty much overkill. I'd say: LSSJ Broly ~ MUI Goku > UIO Gok...

So, soliciting some opinions: We know that removing weighted clothing gives a jump in BP, as the characters get lighter. Would this also apply to moving between differing levels of Gravity? That is, if a character was (say) in a Gravity Room that went from high gravity to normal gravity, would thei...

I’ve seen people suggest that Kuririn’s line about Gohan was more of a “He could surpass Goku forever if he kept training” instead of “He could surpass Goku as he is right now”. Though Kefla complains about her lack of ability to defeat a single Saiyan, and Goku is quickly back to being #1 by the st...

What sells it for me is how the manga adapts the movie 1:1 without even bothering to patch up potential inconsistencies, so I imagine the Gammas are meant to be SSJB levels just because that’s how it is in the movie. I’m not sure whether that's Broly Saga SSJB like the movie (which is more realistic...

I tend to flip flop on this matter every month. The anime looks ugly as fuck, the manga is streamlined but sometimes to the point of dumbing it down. Goku vs Hit is the first divergence and I like both fights. Anime is cooler, but also too wanked. Zamasu Saga could go either way, I like how the mang...

DBS just likes to use the word “level” very loosely. If SSJG is on the level of the gods, then Gohan can definitely be grouped together with Goku and Vegeta. He’s much closer to SSJB level than to SSJG level. When they beat Cell, Piccolo will say not even Goku and Vegeta could beat them just like th...

I think the manga actually gave us a very good reason for Cell Max to be "weak". Since he doesn't have a brain, he's struggling to get used to his power and is still learning how to use it. Sure, he's improving, but did he ever reach his peak? Right off the bat he was already stronger than...

Lol, Toyo didn't change Gohan's line about giant Piccolo so that's another error added to the list for the manga. It's like AT & Uchida told Toyo "You can only change 3 things from the entire script" and his ideas were: More Goten and Trunks, make the Beerus Planet scene even worse an...