Kanzenshuu

Hm. Never thought about his tail. I don't know.

Wasn't he weakened by Goku calling him names or something?

Crap! If only MFG hadn't closed down... At any rate, thanks. Maybe I still have it on a different comp. :cry: Go check MFG again, its up. The main site never closed, just the forum. But now there's another MFG forum up. I tried my other comp but unfortunately, my sister deleted all of my DBZ pictur...

Crap! If only MFG hadn't closed down...

At any rate, thanks. Maybe I still have it on a different comp.

There's a sketch made by Akira showing the difference between Super Saiyan and Super Saiyan 2 Vegetto, but I can't find it. Google has betrayed me. I'm sure some of you must know what sketch I'm talking about, yeah?

It's weird to thikn that vegeta achieved ssj2 before babidy. He became very angry when goku killed yakon. And Goku didn't even transform in ssj2 in that battle. There was no ssj2 aura and goku was already stronger than yakon without any transformation. There was absolutely no need of a ssj2. But in...

This is certainly interesting.

There's always a debate about when and where Vegeta attained Super Saiyan 2, but I've read over the years that one of the guidebooks states Vegeta attained it through harsh training. Can anybody help me with that? Thanks. That's Daizenshuu 7's technique dictionary: Super Saiyan 2 First Appearance :...

Super Saiyan Turlast x4 wrote:I could've swore that was in the SEG.

And yeah, what Kaboom said.

Is there somewhere I can read that part of the SEG or something? I can't find it. >_>

Do you know which one of the guidebooks it is that says Vegeta gained the form through harsh training? That's what I'm trying to find but I'm clearly not looking in the right place.

There's always a debate about when and where Vegeta attained Super Saiyan 2, but I've read over the years that one of the guidebooks states Vegeta attained it through harsh training. Can anybody help me with that? Thanks.

Besides the sketch that shows Gohan is a Super Saiyan 2 in Movie 10, there's also the sketch that shows Broly did indeed get stronger between his appearances. So it makes sense for Gohan to be a Super Saiyan 2 anyway. If Broly's as strong as Perfect Cell in Movie 8 and then gets stronger, there's no...

They disregard those scans because they think it's just "concept art" and doesn't hold any weight in an actual debate. Personally, I think those people are just raging because the Daiz proves something they don't like, but that's just me. I don't see any other reason to dismiss all of the...

I think we need to pay a lot of attention when talking about Daizenshuu. Daizenshuu 2 have the focus on manga. Daizenshuu 3, 5 and an extra volume have the focus on Anime. Daizenshuu 7, the source of the must of the daizenshuu's info on the net consideres all the non canonical info like fillers, an...

I've seen some people dismiss the Daizenshuu(s) outright because Daiz 6 tries to place the first Cooler movie into the timeline. I mean, really? You don't agree with the Daiz giving an approximate estimation of when the movie would fit in, and you dismiss all of the Daiz as "crappy 'guides'&quo...

Everybody's always quick to dismiss the Daizenshuu because of the mistakes in it, but are the mistakes really that bad that one can dismiss it entirely? What's your opinion on that? And on the topic of mistakes, the manga has one or two as well that the Daizenshuu actually corrects, doesn't it? So t...

Probably right about when Gohan did more damage to Raditz with a single headbutt than he and Piccolo working together did over an entire fight. Hm, alright. I always thought Goku was just like "oh, cool, Gohan saved us". I didn't think he thought about any deeper than that until, of cours...

Hmm, thanks. Alright, I have another couple questions. First, when did Goku realize Gohan had such great potential? Second, how great of training partners do you think Gohan and Piccolo were for Goku? How much do you think Gohan contributed to Goku's increase in power? Why did Goku even train with G...

First and foremost, how strong do you gauge Pikkon/Paikuhan at? How did he whallop Cell and Freeza so easily (well, not so much Freeza, but Cell definitely)?

Can Broly sense chi/ki?

I might add another question later but I think I'm done for now.

Movies all seem to, despite their inconsistencies, be ordered chronologically. Dende is God in Movie 6, yet Piccolo is somehow weaker than both Super Saiyans. I haven't seen 7 in a while, was there anything to suggest he was fused in this one? Besides the dates Son_Gohan listed above, I can't think...