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Had they kept that power shown in RoF.... with all this training thus far... In just their base(Godly empowered) they could prob defeat Omega imo. Their base forms atm are probably SS2 - SS3 from the Buu saga & even that's a stretch when u have so many inconsistent shit happening every arc. (An...

Had they kept that power shown in RoF.... with all this training thus far... In just their base(Godly empowered) they could prob defeat Omega imo. Their base forms atm are probably SS2 - SS3 from the Buu saga & even that's a stretch when u have so many inconsistent shit happening every arc. (Ani...

Do you guys think that current UI Omen > ToP Mastered UI? Because even though Goku trained a lot since the Tournament, I still think that'd be a stretch to say, given how much of a "Miracle" this form is, and that the Angels were looking forward to see it in the latest chapter. I once tho...

So I'm guessing this is just for the manga while anime Beerus exceeds anime Vegito?

This is bullshit. Beerus >>>> Moro > Broly > Jiren Limits Surpassed > latest and half way top SSJ Blue Goku and Vegeta > first appearance UIO Goku > Kaioken x20 SSJ Blue Goku (first appearance) > SSJ Blue Vegito from the Future Trunks Arc. When they say Vegetto is stronger, they're talking about hi...

Do you guys think Moro still has more hidden power or is that it? Also how do you think 73 will be used?

Does anyone here believe Current UI Omen from the manga is a rival to Jiren(Manga) ? Based on the few scans from this upcoming chapter, Goku is doing very well against someone who transcends the gods! K this is only assuming Moro isn't using his absolute strength even tho it's implied he is.

We’ll have to wait until next chapter. If Goku can at least hold his own for a short while against a powered up Moro who has transcended the Gods then that would at least put current UI Omen as relative to MUI from the TOP. Really? Because in this very chapter Piccolo says it’s hard to tell if Goku...

So looking back at the ToP, can we safely say that Gohan and Kefla were not SSB level? Manga Kefla was/is so weird. Reading the dialogue makes it seem like Kefla isn't stronger than Kale. In terms of fusions, she's the biggest outlier. Even Kibito Kai was stronger than Shin. I'd say they are within...

Android 17 is not just as strong as Goku. For the manga, I agree. He has shown nothing that would indicate he's that strong. The most he's done is kinda get the upper hand over SS3 Goku. I think he's approaching SSG levels at best. Goku saying he's just as strong as us is total bs as he can't even ...

The show is all over the place. Toei doesn't know how to power scale. Base Saiyan's power fluctuate vastly. One second can fight Beerus/ Monaka, few episodes later he's fighting on par with Roshi. Like he couldn't lift that guy that hugged him, but 18 picks both up casually. The power he showed agai...

Xeno Goku if we go by the manga & Xenoverse is 5th Dimensional or a lot higher. What does that even mean? And since when does Xeno Goku appear in Xenoverse? Ur right about that. He does not appear in Xenoverse... & Look up dimensional tiering. Too much to explain. The Supreme Kai of time ha...

I considered SSJB Gogeta from SDBH but now that another couple arcs have played out in the main story, does a fusion of Goku & Vegeta actually have enough power, speed, and skill to contend in a bout of hand-to-hand combat with Whis or other Angels? SSB Gogeta from DBH would solo DBS because th...

Is it wrong that I gleaned more enjoyment from Gohan and Piccolo's amazing teamwork than I did Goku pummelling all the minions into submission with no exertion? The clichéd trope of ascensional dazzlement only works for so long before it grows uninteresting. What was probably most remarkable about ...

Wait when Goku blitzed and smashed Saganbo was he still in base? How strong did this guy get? Gohan & Piccolo couldn't do anything to this guy! You’re right in the fact that it was not revealed in what form he was in during the first strike on Saganbo. I also, was like, what??? Was he in Base, ...

Wait when Goku blitzed and smashed Saganbo was he still in base? How strong did this guy get? Gohan & Piccolo couldn't do anything to this guy!

Let's say he had no prior Godly transformations and we just give UI to start of Z Base Goku? Would that affect the boost received greatly, given he had no prior experience tapping into those forms?

Miracles Well UI Omen gave Goku such a boost that allowed him to swap hands with Jiren, who at the time was compared to the likes of Fused Zamasu. UI(Silver) allowed him to finally reach the realm of a G.O.D or even surpass it. The boost is gigantic to be able to close the gap between he and Jiren. ...

Start of Z Goku with UI could prob beat Buu, if not possibly even Vegito. Like the boost is equivalent to SSB Fusion or very close to it. The boost should take him pretty far.

I think it's pretty simple. In ep. 123 Goku = Vegeta without UI. Toppo beat up Vegeta who is = to max power KK Goku. Vegeta gets a boost, then proceeds to overpower the same Toppo who had the upper hand earlier. Vegeta did surpass Goku for that short period of time and by a good amount actually.