Kanzenshuu

If the final chapter of DB is still planned to occur as it did in 1995, will Oob actually be a lot stronger than previously thought or will Goku just be holding back a lot more? Possibly a bit of column A & B? I suspect mostly column B, but certainly column A would be applicable as well. Per th...

Possibly. The Oracle Fish did have a premonition that the power balance in the universe was about to change. The Oracle Fish not recognizing Gas seems to suggest the premonition was about someone else. Despite knowing that Black Freeza had just effortlessly dropped Gas+UI Goku+UE Vegeta, Whis still...

"Achieving this form took plenty of toil, I'll have you know."

Imo, this implies that Black Freeza is indeed a completely new form that he attained via a decade of training, and not just him switching the color of his Golden form.

Bulma's "joke" aside, Krillin actually did receive a few moments of respect in this movie... -When Cell Max was about to attack #18, Krillin's Destructo Disk clearly 'hurt' him to some extent, as it stopped his charge all together(and Cell was still at full-power, no less.) -The Solar Flar...

Obviously he couldn't in the Buu saga, that much is very clear, but a lot of time has passed since then. Do you think he could do it? Why or why not? He certainly could. In the anime, Goku indicated that SS3 was fully possible for a relative novice, like Caulifla, to achieve... So there's no reason...

How much stronger do you guys think Whis is compared to MUI Goku? If we're talking manga, then the heavy implication is that Beerus is still above current MUI Goku. Meanwhile, Whis is capable of KO'ing Beerus with one casual chop. That said, Whis is likely still orders of magnitude beyond Goku at t...

No, they didn't. Only reason SS Vegetto didn't kill Boo right away was because he wanted to save the people Boo absorbed. I'm not saying that Vegetto couldn't have killed Boohan -- of course he could have. What I'm saying is that Boo's stamina + regen still meant something , in the sense that he wa...

I don't think he was. All those advantages didn't mean jack for Boohan against SS Vegetto. I mean, Boo's infinite stamina + regen certainly meant something against Vegetto... But I see what you're saying. Regardless, it seems like there was a [mis]translation issue on my end, based on the subs I ha...

Krillin actually implies twice that Boo would be enough to beat first form Freeza. True, but perhaps Krillin was factoring in Boo's infinite stamina + unbounded regen + esoteric magics? In which case I would agree that Boo may have been able to beat 1st form Freeza... Because even if Freeza started...

Of course the 1.3m figure doesn't make sense. That's why it was cut from the manga adaptation and the anime revamp. That fact of the matter is that Freeza had never trained a day in his life, so he had no clue what kind of gains he could actually achieve by training -- he was just spitballing. That ...

What about the 12 gods of destruction against the grand priest? He could stop Beerus's and Quitela's punches with a finger each in the manga, but is he strong enough to face 12 opponents at the same time? Considering that the gods of destruction don't seem too big on teamwork, I suspect that the gr...

If you guys *had* to speculate, what level would you put Chap. 83 Bardock/Gas at?

Nappa-level?
Saiyan saga Vegeta-level?
Dodoria-level?
Burter/Jeice-level?

Below that? Above that?

Regeneration definitiely costs Cell Ki though, even though he was in a much better position than Goku regenerating after the IT Kamehameha. It drained him enough to accept using a Senzu Bean. I don't know if it was the regeneration itself that cost Cell ki, so much as the attacks that initially cau...

This is somewhat of a loaded question. If we're talking strictly villains (not anti-heroes), then Freeza is really the only true villain who was given second(and third) chances after his death(s) to attain greater power. Every other villain in the series was either killed during their arc, or was re...

This arc has been subpar, to say the least.

So at this point, I honestly wouldn't mind if they 'ported to Vampa, and Goku just said "Broly smash" or w/e. Would at least break some of the annoying repetition. /shrug

It was only noted that Trunks was stronger than Cell while he [Cell] was still heavily suppressing his power... So said comments would not be applicable to a full power Cell, because none of the Z Fighters had any indication of what a 100% Cell was capable of at the time. Again, Cell only used his f...

As has been mentioned... a.) The recipient of this wish needs to actually possess the latent potential to become "the strongest"(with their lifeforce also factored into the equation.) If you don't have that preexisting potential, then there's only so much this particular Dragon can do. b.)...

Cell was also heavily suppressed when he fought Trunks -- so any comparisons between their powers at the time need to take that into consideration.

Cell never displayed his full power until SS2 Gohan entered the fray.

Noah wrote: ↑Fri Oct 08, 2021 4:07 pm New match:

- Broly vs. Moro (both fully powered)

Broly would be an all-you-can-eat buffet for Moro.

To be fair, I remember when the promotional trailers for the Broly film were originally released, some of the graphics looked a bit corny and video-gamey as well, but were ultimately polished in the final release... Hopefully the same thing happens here.