Kanzenshuu

A weaken Frost was stronger than Piccolo. Piccolo was stronger than Semi-Pefect Cell 12 years before the Universe 6 tournament and he's stated to always train. It's entirely possible for Piccolo to be below Semi-Perfect Cell during Champa's tournament. Because even though he keeps training, we don'...

[*] The Heaters are also generic Toei movie style enemies. They're very like the space pirates from Movie 9. They're missing the weirdness you'd expect from a Dragonball villian. The Heeters are a mixed bag for me at the moment. When they were first announced, everyone thought they would be a disco...

I have this feeling now, but only because it doesn't seem like Toriyama has any interest in continuing DB past EoZ. He has already stated that the time period chosen for the BoG movie (revival of the franchise) was because he felt that the characters in EoZ were already too old. And I honestly think...

Yeah, I'm not sure where this revisionist fan history in regard to Ultra Instinct has come from, as it was never implied to be invincible in either medium of Super . Goku eats plenty of blows in the anime, and Jiren literally catches and tosses him in its debut chapter in the manga. It can still be...

I don't think either Goku or Vegeta got power boosts right after being healed by Monaito. They've changed their mindset, but there's no mention of improvement yet, their Ultra form is still pretty much the same. I believe this will occur during the battle, with Goku finding his own version of his Ul...

Ultra Instinct didn't felt like Ultra Instinct to me. I'm just not used to the white-haired Goku showing all these emotions, as if he was still fighting in base. I thought the form was supposed to be calm and collected but now it's just.. a literal recolor. This was also a major factor for my disap...

Vegeta was taking damage on purpose against Granolah, which doesn't seem to be the case against Gas. Anyway, getting stronger by taking damage is one of the ways to fill his battle spirit. So it's only natural for him to get stronger in this chapter, even if that damage isn't being taken deliberatel...

Right, so Elec may be referring to Gas's power level, but for me it wouldn't make sense to create this mystery if the implications were about power (after all, we already know he's stronger than Granolah). This is in line with the fact that we never quite saw how Elec worded the wish made for Toromb...

That is not a Brazilian thing, that's how most of the fanbase is. You forget these forums and many of your american friends on twitter are the hardcore fanbase, who are always more critical than the average fan. Bardock is included in the first place because he's incredibly popular. Him, Broly, Tru...

Not related to any specific discussion here, but I follow the Brazilian Dragon Ball fandom, and I find it quite funny how different their perceptions are compared to the perceptions of DB's English fandom. I don't want to generalize because there is no consensus, but within this bubble many feel tha...

Well, I guess you can tie this wish with some elements of the original manga, like Roshi even back in the 23rd Tenkaichi Budokai talking about how the Dragon Balls were what made Goku who he is today (before that larger context even existed, kind of giving greater meaning to it). This can be used as...

I won't say for sure, but these images imply to me that the assault on Cereal was the last thing Bardock did before sending Goku to Earth. Hopefully that's not the case and I'm missing some context, I really would like to avoid more problems in regards to the years. It doesn't look like it was the ...

jjgp1112 wrote: ↑Fri May 06, 2022 6:32 am Based on what?

Zarbon was no better than any other thug in Freeza's army, he was just prettier.

What do you mean? My boy Zarbon was just out there conquering planets and exterminating their inhabitants for decades, of course he wasn't that evil!

Colour change forms (plus eye changes in the case of UI and UE) work pretty fine visually for the anime medium, manga does have some trouble with them but they work alright enough too The look of a possible new transformation for Vegeta in the manga before the Ultra Ego chapter was actually a conce...

Really great thread, thanks for the effort!

I'm sure it will be very useful for future chapters too, and to clear any other potential misunderstandings regarding translations that are not covered by the thread yet.

At first I didn't like the design, but over time I got used to it. The color was not what I imagined but it turned out cool at least. I feel that if some people haven't gotten used to the design of the form (and maybe they never will, because it's in fact visually more bestial and unsightly so it's ...

I think the issue is less that Bardock's fighting strength changes with his emotions (which is shonen 101) but that its execution is severely lacking. So it doesn't feel as impactful as the SSJ transformation, because it feels like it came from nowhere. I think that's what people are reacting to. N...

I want to ask something that can may be pretty dumb or out of time to ask, it's pretty related to the movie and also isn't. Is there any of chance of Granola and Moro not getting a Animated adaptation? Like, Super Hero is released,, then later, the anime returns, but it skips Granola and Moro and i...

If Bardock got insanely strong by thinking about absolute victory, why couldn't he defeat Frieza then? I'm seeing questions like this popping up since the release and I don't get why people (in general, not you specifically) are interpreting the scene this way. Bardock being able to close the gap a...

Unless Vegeta explicitly gives up on Ultra Ego at the end of this arc, there's no reason to believe Toyo will drop this form, especially since in the interview he makes a big deal out of the fact that it's a technique that's supposed to Vegeta's own path of evolution, similar to how UI is for Goku. ...