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I would say DBS is 6/10 overall.

And DBGT is 4/10 overall.

I see no problem with it. People shouldn't take every detail to heart. After all, Jiren easily defeated Roshi in the end.

Yes, God Toppo. Vegeta was clearly weaker than him but then got a rage boost. Something like this: UIO Goku [E129] > SSBE Vegeta [Enraged] > GoD Toppo > UIO Goku [E116] > SS2 Kefla > SSB KKLB Goku > SSBE Vegeta > UIO Goku [E110] > SS Kefla >>> SSB KK20 Goku This is also my view, except pre rage boo...

SaiyanGod117 wrote:How fast is this feat?

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Cannot be calced, since no time frame.

Considering usually every villain that comes after is stronger, id say yes, he most definitely will be above Jiren.

Wait, are you people trying to actually explain why Goku did better than Vegeta n Trunks vs Merged Zamasu? Cos the real reason is simply, it was in the outline. So they kinda had to do something that one ups Vegeta.

Going to be a let down for me if Vegeta and Toppo don't get their anime forms.

Gohan even mentioned after asking his father to go all out, that Goku was holding back. Like Gohan explicitly said that Goku wasn't going all out. That's the statement I'm referring to. They spar in base, Gohan expresses his dissatisfaction with Goku holding back, and Goku specifically responds to ...

Considering what Piccolo said, Gohan pre ep 90 should be below ultimate Gohan from buu saga.

Vegeta, never would I have expected him to beat a GoD.

Still the same. Aka, boring to rewatch. GT just never clicked for me.

Well i started ignoring the Super PL inconsistency back when ep 57 aired. Super is an anime best watched without thinking to much about it. If you try to analise and stuff, u will start hating it for causing u so much trouble. What was so egregious about episode 57? Goku n Trunks vs Black and Zamas...

Obviously Mastered UI. Omen UI is basically fake ssj from Lord slug movie.

Well i started ignoring the Super PL inconsistency back when ep 57 aired. Super is an anime best watched without thinking to much about it. If you try to analise and stuff, u will start hating it for causing u so much trouble.

GT is still crap apart from ssj4. Only Goku is useful there and it is quite boring TBH. Plus i never cared for it.

I dont think so, Piccolo states that Gohan unlocked the power which he used vs Buu when he managed to get his Ultimate form back. So he was pretty weak till ep 88. Well that is the other alternative. So is Gohan during the Zen Exhibition similar in power to how he was in the Buu Saga, which would a...

UI omen never fought a fullpower Jiren at all so I don't know where you're getting that information from. Ep 127-129 Jiren is FP Jiren. So Incomplete UI did indeed fight a FP Jiren. This is stated by a Kai at the beginning of ep 130. Are we to believe that Base Gohan by the Future Trunks saga had g...

I like it, always liked Super Vegeta from androids arc and this is basically Super Blue Vegeta and Vegeta defeated a GoD thanks to it, so it achieved allot, i wont mind even if it never appears again.

Vegeta is absolutely not stronger than Belmond and Beerus. Where is your evidence? I got anime statements backing up my claims. All you got is but muh Beerus. Give it a rest with the Beerus wanking. Where did the anime ever confirm Beerus was weaker than anyone? Arm wrestling match. Whis says in th...

And Beerus said that Toppo didn't have full control over his Hakai energy because he had to keep charging it up. And Vegeta was shown fighting along side SSBKKX20 Goku and not UI Omen. The anime did no favors for Vegeta's form. If anything, they made it look weaker than it probably was meant to be ...