Kanzenshuu

Yes, Stephanie...

Is that what your wet dream conjured up?

Considering this is AT's manga, it would be something like Pantie or something.

17/18 at least remember being human, otherwise their disgust for Gero would be somewhat unfounded.

Gero gave me the impression 16 was some sort of evil badass without restraints. Even if what coola suggests is true, I find it odd that Gero would be so frightened, unless 16 would destroy Gero and 17/18 if they somehow tried to harm nature/life (not including Goku, of course).

It's listed as his power in the Daiz right there beside the full powers of Krillin and Piccolo. He was scared of a Saibaman and couldn't track Yamcha's movements, so it makes sense for him to be that low. That was only temporary, and because he was highly inexperienced. It's not evidence that he is...

The Dai doesn't really make a distinction in most cases, no?

While it acknowledges that the movies take place in an alternate universe, it makes its power comparisons to the main story (if any/when applicable).

Some people just like to ignore evidence, unfortunately.

Goku adjusted well shortly after handling it.

Anyone can appear to be struggling with something they were not expecting/prepared for.

When you are tense or agitated, does your persona not change?

After Cell powered up, I think it is pretty clear he was not using his max speed according to his current level of suppression and used it later to match or surpass Gohan's.

It isn't until Gohan unleashes his hidden powers that Cell decides to power up to his max.

And why would their being calm be so surprising if what you say is true?

^ And was just about to mention this. Notice how Goku and Gohan were still able to act friendly and happy when they exited the hyperbolic time chamber, if these forms really changed personality, it would be awfully hard to act like that. That is because of the nature of their SSJ forms after the RO...

Angelus gets it. Great post.

Goku acted with his emotions pretty much throughout the series up until he trained with Kami/Popo, and even then he couldn't quite pull away from doing so.

Because it's too slow. Frieza's is better because he can direct its movement, but it was still a novice attack vs. an experienced fighter like Goku.

Vegito also considered Buu copying Gotenks' techniques as degrading, even though they were quite deadly.

I doubt Goku and Vegeta, being true warriors, would want to attain victory by easily splitting their opponent in half when it hits.

Frieza used it as a last resort, and Goku thought lowly of it.

Uh, according to what? That makes no sense. Unless there is a reason for the exception, souls are eventually cleansed and cannot be changed back to their previous persona. I'm assuming reincarnated souls can't be wished back (though we could be proven wrong someday), but we don't know how long it t...

Chris Hemsworth tier and above should play Goku. Only then would I be fully satisfied.

The Dragonballs are limited to bringing back the dead that passed within the last year, if I recall correctly. Only with large groups, like "all the people killed by Freeza and his men" where they have been rampaging throughout the universe for a couple decades. No such limitation is stat...

They use ki to amplify their defense as well as their offense.

Look at what happens to foes that are several times stronger and they are caught off guard by an attack: Piccolo kicking Frieza several yards away, and Kid Trunks doing the same thing to Fat Buu.

I believe it can have either effect depending on how you use it. I Would think that in order to handle all that ki we would need to be stronger then a rock Videl had enough ki within her to help her fly the entire time, she just did not know how to properly use it.

I believe it can have either effect depending on how you use it.