Whoa, this issue again! Run, everybody, run!
Seriously, though, it's whatever you personally choose to believe. It isn't like the Pure Boo/Evil Boo debate where it's damn near laid out clearly, or the Krillin/Tenshinhan debate. It's murky and can go either way.
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- Tue Nov 12, 2013 4:21 am
- Forum: In-Universe Discussion
- Topic: Is Piccolo weaker than Base Saiyans in the Buu arc?
- Replies: 28
- Views: 4769
- Tue Nov 12, 2013 4:18 am
- Forum: In-Universe Discussion
- Topic: The kids after the Room of Spirit and Time
- Replies: 46
- Views: 2832
Re: He kids post Rosat
DBZF is full of fools You'd say the same about this site if they decided to ban you, so. As for the topic, I don't see the need nor the solid evidence for any significant gains for the kids. The only one noted to have improved was Gotenks. Unless Piccolo forgot how Fusion worked, he should've been ...
- Tue Nov 05, 2013 9:10 pm
- Forum: In-Universe Discussion
- Topic: FPSSJ vs. USSJ - power differential?
- Replies: 10
- Views: 3509
Re: FPSSJ vs. USSJ - power differential?
I personally don't see where in the narrative a difference of power between regular Super Saiyan and "Super Saiyan Full-Power" is given, or how simply removing the restless feeling and ki drain could amount to such a difference. They're the same form. Grade 3 is the Hulk Mode of the Super...
- Tue Nov 05, 2013 6:19 pm
- Forum: In-Universe Discussion
- Topic: FPSSJ vs. USSJ - power differential?
- Replies: 10
- Views: 3509
Re: FPSSJ vs. USSJ - power differential?
I personally don't see where in the narrative a difference of power between regular Super Saiyan and "Super Saiyan Full-Power" is given, or how simply removing the restless feeling and ki drain could amount to such a difference. They're the same form. Grade 3 is the Hulk Mode of the Super ...
- Tue Nov 05, 2013 2:44 am
- Forum: In-Universe Discussion
- Topic: Androids 19 & 20 stronger than Freeza?
- Replies: 46
- Views: 4502
Re: Androids 19 And 20 > Freeza?
Before absorptions, who knows. After, I find it highly inarguable for either of the androids to be weaker than Freeza. No.19 post-Goku was said by Vegeta to be not be "as bad" as the rumors insinuated, and No.20 after his absorptions was the one who prompted Piccolo to actually wonder if h...
- Sun Oct 27, 2013 2:58 am
- Forum: In-Universe Discussion
- Topic: General Consensus About Cell
- Replies: 42
- Views: 5747
Re: General Consensus About Cell
Semi-Perfect Cell is my least favorite villain, at least from the manga, and that's including lesser henchmen like Piccolo's guys and Spopovich. What an ugly design and terrible personality; FUNimation didn't do him any favors with his constant crying and Vegeta-esque tantrums. I enjoyed Perfect Cel...
- Sat Oct 19, 2013 7:53 pm
- Forum: In-Universe Discussion
- Topic: Super Saiyan ki
- Replies: 9
- Views: 1210
Super Saiyan ki
With regard to what Gohan says about Trunks having the "same ki" as Goku, and there being two different ways to interpret that quote, I was searching for something in particular. Are there any statements or guidebook entries that point out Super Saiyans having a different ki than other bei...
- Sat Oct 12, 2013 9:23 pm
- Forum: In-Universe Discussion
- Topic: New Fake Guidebook Scan
- Replies: 16
- Views: 3530
Re: New Leaked Guidebook Scan
Yeah, I had a bit of hope at first, but then I saw Broly and I knew it was fake.
- Fri Oct 11, 2013 12:51 pm
- Forum: In-Universe Discussion
- Topic: How powerful are the humans in the Android arc?
- Replies: 31
- Views: 3879
Re: How powerful are the humans in the Android arc?
Chapter: 268 (DBZ 74), P13.1 Context: Vegeta turned down Zarbon’s proposal to fight Freeza together…by killing him. Vegeta: “If Freeza could be defeated just by teaming with the likes of you…then I wouldn’t have any trouble…” Krillin > Zarbon at the absolute very least. Good starting point. Chapter...
- Mon Oct 07, 2013 9:35 pm
- Forum: In-Universe Discussion
- Topic: How powerful are the humans in the Android arc?
- Replies: 31
- Views: 3879
Re: How powerful are the humans in the Android saga?
There's no need to have them too high. Their role was for support, not to fight like Goku or Piccolo. Yamcha showed up because he didn't believe the androids were real and Krillin went to support his friends, even showing clear uneasiness at the thought of fighting guys stronger than Freeza ("W...
- Fri Sep 13, 2013 2:37 am
- Forum: In-Universe Discussion
- Topic: Tenshinhan and Cell's cells
- Replies: 54
- Views: 5437
Re: Tenshinhan and Cell's cells
Cell had Tenshinhan's DNA? I thought that was just an anime thing, like King Cold, Nappa, and Raditz.
- Thu Sep 05, 2013 4:43 am
- Forum: In-Universe Discussion
- Topic: Three-Eyed People & Tenshinhan
- Replies: 10
- Views: 3325
Three-Eyed People & Tenshinhan
In the manga, Tenshinhan displayed the ability to split himself into four people, and grow extra arms. The Daizenshuu says both are characteristics of the Three-Eyed People, and specifically says the latter is beyond "human limits." Is there any explanation for this in the manga, or is tha...
- Wed Sep 04, 2013 2:11 pm
- Forum: In-Universe Discussion
- Topic: Piccolo in the Cell Games
- Replies: 68
- Views: 11419
Re: Piccolo in the Cell Games
I think even reaching the level of the Imperfect Cell that completely wrecked both him and No.17 would qualify as a "whole different level," too, but that's just my opinion here.
Super Vegeta or Semi-Perfect Cell is just the common level I see him placed at these days.
Super Vegeta or Semi-Perfect Cell is just the common level I see him placed at these days.
- Wed Sep 04, 2013 7:18 am
- Forum: In-Universe Discussion
- Topic: Piccolo in the Cell Games
- Replies: 68
- Views: 11419
Re: Piccolo in the Cell Games
True, he could have been at his limit, but I was merely mentioning that for people who don't believe he was and just decided not to go back in because he's dumb.
- Wed Sep 04, 2013 2:49 am
- Forum: In-Universe Discussion
- Topic: Piccolo in the Cell Games
- Replies: 68
- Views: 11419
Re: Piccolo in the Cell Games
If Piccolo was as strong as Super Saiyan Grade 3 Trunks, who could arguably be stronger than 50% Full-Power Super Saiyan Goku, why wouldn't he go back into the RoSaT? He could likely come out the strongest guy on the team, but instead he passed it up knowing he was useless against Cell. That to me p...
- Mon Sep 02, 2013 5:32 pm
- Forum: In-Universe Discussion
- Topic: Frieza and His Forms, questions.
- Replies: 23
- Views: 2761
Re: Freeza and His Forms, questions.
What source says this about Cold? That's interesting. The Dragon Books. A short bio for Cold says: "His appearance bears a close resemblance to Freeza's second form, and Cold also appears to be the type whose abilities increase by transforming." That's new to me. By "type," coul...
- Mon Sep 02, 2013 1:46 pm
- Forum: In-Universe Discussion
- Topic: Frieza and His Forms, questions.
- Replies: 23
- Views: 2761
Re: Freeza and His Forms, questions.
1) The way I see it, Freeza's forms work "backwards," where so-called Final Form is actually his true form, and he transforms to lower his power instead of increase it. So yes, he can and does "transform down" for that purpose. 2) I know of at least once source that says Cold se...
- Sun Sep 01, 2013 11:16 am
- Forum: In-Universe Discussion
- Topic: Broly the strongest until Janemba?
- Replies: 70
- Views: 8066
Re: Broly the strongest until Janemba?
The problem is kids use that line for the villains that appeared in the manga, too...
- Sat Aug 31, 2013 12:32 am
- Forum: In-Universe Discussion
- Topic: How strong is Fat Boo?
- Replies: 27
- Views: 4022
Re: How strong is Fat Boo?
There is a title page during the Evil Boo-Gotenks fight that asks which one of them is the strongest in the universe, so clearly Goku is not in that league according to the guy who made the comic.
- Sat Aug 31, 2013 12:29 am
- Forum: In-Universe Discussion
- Topic: What is Gogeta's Stardust Breaker?
- Replies: 10
- Views: 4306
Re: What is Gogeta's Stardust Breaker?
Just a theory, but I see it as an "evil cleanser" of sorts. Janemba was pure evil apart from the boy used as his host.