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- Wed Jun 29, 2022 2:51 am
- Forum: Dragon Ball Super
- Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
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So how do you think Jiren and Belmod compares to characters from the current arcs and Beerus? Well, there's a lot to unpack here. Jiren is an interesting case in that being from a different universe effectively makes him outside the purview of Granolah's wish, and he managed to force Goku out of a ...
- Tue Jun 28, 2022 1:05 am
- Forum: Dragon Ball Super
- Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
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*snip* It's presented sloppily, but yes, that's the intended thrust. I don't think it has anything to do with Bardock's power-up; rather, Goku distinctly implies that his Ultra Instinct (at least the one in the Granolah arc) is nerfed to hell right now, so Sign is his strongest available form with ...
- Mon Jun 27, 2022 5:45 am
- Forum: Dragon Ball Super
- Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
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Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
So the picture I'm getting from the manga's scaling is that Silver UI Goku drops in strength massively whenever his heart isn't calm which it wasn't at all vs Gas. He was also surprised vs Granolah. Granolah Arc UI Goku has a bunch of panels making expressions that he should not be making in order t...
- Fri Jun 10, 2022 2:46 am
- Forum: Dragon Ball Super
- Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
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So it seems that Vegeta brings up Jiren in the movie and the translations are conflicting but it seems to be about Jiren being a benchmark that Vegeta hasn't reached. Not confirmed yet though. The movie chronologically takes place after the Granola arc where Ultra Ego was introduced so I'm wondering...
- Tue Aug 10, 2021 4:05 pm
- Forum: Dragon Ball Super
- Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
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That's why I keep telling you that this particular editor has, according to himself, not me, no input on the story. Definitely no input when it comes to who is the strongest. That's not what Uchida said. He simply stated that when in meetings with himself, Toriyama and Toyotaro, Toriyama's ideas ho...
- Tue Aug 10, 2021 3:39 pm
- Forum: Dragon Ball Super
- Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
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What information? he namedropped Broly because he probably likes the character. His input or opinion are meaningless, if Toyotaro says Goku is number one, then Broly is not number one, no matter what the guy that works with him thinks or wants. He is not revealing secret information that Toyo is pu...
- Tue Aug 10, 2021 2:40 pm
- Forum: Dragon Ball Super
- Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
- Replies: 39973
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The scaling is about power, so of course that's the main thing. Granola at the very least is stronger than Moro UI Goku, that's a fact. You might want to make a case for post training Goku but none of that is sure yet. And since MUI can be defeated with raw power, Granola is above. No it isn't. Oth...
- Tue Aug 10, 2021 1:51 pm
- Forum: Dragon Ball Super
- Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
- Replies: 39973
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But Toyo literally finished the interview providing the podium for the strongest in U7, why people keep overlooking that? did Broly move to U6? is he no longer a mortal? his FP is still his, it would make no sense to pretend he is just SSB level now, and Goku took his FP into account when he deemed...
- Tue Aug 10, 2021 10:54 am
- Forum: Dragon Ball Super
- Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
- Replies: 39973
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Part of the manga confusion seems to stem from Jiren surpassing Belmod. In the manga Jiren was stated to only surpass Belmod in battle power. It seemed to single out battle power as if there were areas that Belmod surpassed Jiren in. A God could defeat Jiren with Destruction techniques in the manga....
- Sun Jul 11, 2021 6:42 pm
- Forum: Video Games
- Topic: "(Super) Dragon Ball Heroes" Official Discussion Thread
- Replies: 16751
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Re: "(Super) Dragon Ball Heroes" Official Discussion Thread
Is there a link to a compiled list of translations from the arcade game?
- Sat Jul 10, 2021 7:19 pm
- Forum: Dragon Ball Super
- Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
- Replies: 39973
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UI and Hakai are being treated as counterparts to one another. Beerus(Hakai)>UI Goku=Vegeta(Hakai)>Beerus>SSBE Vegeta Hakai allows Beerus to punch above what his conventional battle power would allow. And he stated that Hakai is the reason why there's no limit to his power. Beerus being able to kill...
- Wed Jul 07, 2021 10:09 pm
- Forum: Video Games
- Topic: "Dragon Ball XENOVERSE 2" Official Discussion Thread
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Re: "Dragon Ball XENOVERSE 2" Official Discussion Thread
Haven't played this in a while. Honestly better work needs to be done with the DLC characters. No idea what they were doing when making God Toppo's moveset. He doesn't have the huge Hakai orb that he used against Vegeta in their final clash, just the tiny one that he used against Frieza's Supernova....
- Mon Sep 02, 2019 12:56 am
- Forum: In-Universe Discussion
- Topic: Could the Z fighters become as strong as they are now without meeting Beerus and Whis?
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Re: Could the Z fighters become as strong as they are now without meeting Beerus and Whis?
They eventually did become as strong as their Super counterparts during GT. It just took them longer to reach the same realm of strength.
- Wed Aug 14, 2019 4:44 pm
- Forum: Dragon Ball Super
- Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
- Replies: 39973
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Probably about as strong as God of Destruction Toppo since Golden Frieza=SSB=Base Toppo.
- Sat Aug 03, 2019 4:52 pm
- Forum: Dragon Ball Super
- Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
- Replies: 39973
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Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
You can look at Goku vs Kefla in a way that since Goku was capable of putting up resistance against the power of the Spirit Bomb although he was overwhelmed, it makes sense that he can put up resistance against Kefla's level of power. It certainly looked that way when Goku fought Jiren, but when he...
- Fri Aug 02, 2019 11:49 pm
- Forum: Dragon Ball Super
- Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
- Replies: 39973
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You can look at Goku vs Kefla in a way that since Goku was capable of putting up resistance against the power of the Spirit Bomb although he was overwhelmed, it makes sense that he can put up resistance against Kefla's level of power.
- Mon Jul 29, 2019 10:14 pm
- Forum: Dragon Ball Super
- Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
- Replies: 39973
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Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Toppo is no different from a God of Destruction. Nothing implies that he's weaker than any of them. Charging up the Hakai energy isn't stated to be a weakness specific to him. It's a drawback to the energy itself. We see him charging Hakai orbs no differently than what Sidra did and there's no impli...
- Fri Jul 26, 2019 8:22 pm
- Forum: Dragon Ball Super
- Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
- Replies: 39973
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What's interesting about this set of stickers are the Boo arc power levels. SSJ Vegito: 7,500 Pure Boo: 7,200 SSJ3 Goku: 6,000 SSJ3 Gotenks: 5,900 Majin Vegeta: 5,700 Gohan: 5,000 Goten and Trunks: 5,000 Piccolo: 4,500 Innocent Boo: 3,500 Don't know what's going on with Gohan, Goten & Trunks, Pi...
- Sat Jun 29, 2019 7:04 pm
- Forum: Video Games
- Topic: "(Super) Dragon Ball Heroes" Official Discussion Thread
- Replies: 16751
- Views: 2892789
Re: "(Super) Dragon Ball Heroes" Official Discussion Thread
In terms of raw power, Hearts can only be comparable to SSB Goku. Gravity Burst and his Energy Cubes aren't really raw power but more so specialized techniques. This would prove that Cumber is the strongest of the Core Area Warriors since there were people saying that Hearts was the strongest. Jiren...
- Wed Jun 26, 2019 9:53 pm
- Forum: Dragon Ball Super
- Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
- Replies: 39973
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Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
And Boo Arc Vegito being stronger than the Blues as well as portrayed in Legends since Vegito was alluded to be superior to a Super Saiyan 4 in strength. The Legends material and Heroes do seem to be consistent with each other even if maybe by coincidence. Super Saiyan 4 was stated being equivalent...