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Glad we can come to an understanding, even RBAY is really the best ya got Obvioulsly because i don't want to cause a fuss just because your shitty childish troll kiddo. :) Whatever if you don't want to talk about dragonball (shirposting) and just want to stroking your ego you can go on i have no in...

Glad we can come to an understanding, even RBAY is really the best ya got Obvioulsly because i don't want to cause a fuss just because your shitty childish troll kiddo. :) Whatever if you don't want to talk about dragonball (shirposting) and just want to stroking your ego you can go on i have no in...

so don't force your random assumptions we don't need random assumption that has infinite possibility. That part I understood, and it's so hilariously hypocritical. You did a bit better this time, but still pretty muddled. I have no interest in trying to decipher all that. 'Right back at you. I don'...

Masako herself says he was dead. When Vegeta is about to call him out on it, Goku shushes him, implying he is dead. The thing with beyond power doesn't quite add up when the Dragon Ball produced beings far beyond the creators power. I also said he has in the past absorbed power from the Genki Dama,...

Also it's possible Shenlong has something to do with it since it's heavily hinted at Goku's dead. Goku's voice actress seems to say so that he was dead. Dead people have halos in the DB universe. You don't just take an iron-clad rule like that and throw it out the window. Also, dead people are not ...

Even though it's indicating that it's not a certainty that Vegetto is stronger, it still means that they're close enough in strength that it's possible that Vegetto is the stronger. If you're not sure don't use it as your claim it is nothing to discuss and all my point still stand strong, not enoug...

超サイヤ人4以上の強さかも!?="[His] strength [is] perhaps greater than Super Saiyan 4!?"

1. Perhaps
2. From random non canon book
3. Contradicts GT anime.

So that is not even a question to argue.
Not interested to debate it.

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GT is canon and has no plot hole so there is nothing to discuss though and about power level, GT had stated that super baby vegeta 2 is the strongest ki goku/ he has ever felt so it is stating that he is goku's latest strongest enemy and stronger than any transformation that he has done before, even...

i don't debate without proof espescially number 1 In GT he state himself as hihi bachan or e e bachan is not that long for great great grandmother though. That's still much longer than simply saying "grandmother", so there's no reason for him to not shorten it down to simply "grandmo...

With Goku missing or 100 years you can be sure he either is dead or some supernatural being that is also beyond life. Also you are taking this way too serious. Remember pan still alive and goku is at pan's age or younger. So if goku can has the same age as pan surely he still alive. And actually it...

1. i don't debate without link 2The nearly come from the english dub as i stated it. 4 i said the DUB when i said the nearly part. i state the raw from the grandmother statement 5. why should i believe your sub? 2. i put wrong information ? i have said it i did use my own country dub in the statemen...

i don't debate without proof espescially number 1 In GT he state himself as hihi bachan or e e bachan is not that long for great great grandmother though. I put this thread to rest until i have another time to answer. it's fate i failed to delete this thread. So don't expect quick answer from me :lol:

I don't need a fallacy assumption it's very childish prove me with link. so i can verify it. Even asian has no such culture to do that because it can get you in jail furthermore it's very rude because making grave even 2. i actually true in the last thread but you're not thinkin in big picture and ...

The reasons 1. the cemetery and big grave of goku eventhough Goku is not dead so nothing inside it. 2. in hero legacy raw (japan) pan is stated as her grandmother of goku jr in GT Pan raw ( japan ) is stated as his GREAT GREAT grandmother of goku jr 3. it's filler special that aired almost a year b...

1. nobody paying respect and pray to empty grave and it's very stupid nobody do this as far as normal human do. They made altar or just photo 2.in gt he called as hi hi bachan mean great great grand mother. in raw he is called just pan baa chan 3. half a year you mean half year? it's actually aired...

I. myself like dragon punch because the cool effect
2.full powered blast because its uniqueness and it's used as technical attack

1. This is not a legit reason. In the real world there are people who go missing that are given graves despite not knowing what happened to the person. So there is no reason why Goku wouldn't get given a grave after being missing for 50-100 years. 2. I don't know about these because I've never both...

The reasons 1. the cemetery and big grave of goku eventhough Goku is not dead so nothing inside it. 2. in hero legacy raw (japan) pan is stated as her grandmother of goku jr in GT Pan raw ( japan ) is stated as his GREAT GREAT grandmother of goku jr 3. it's filler special that aired almost a year be...

Yes that's why he can get this much stronger. There are a lot of potential types though because martial artist is not a sumo wrestling. Even much skinner people can win in sumo wresting. The result prove goku has a lot of hidden potential.