Kanzenshuu

Hugo Boss wrote: ↑Thu Mar 21, 2024 7:14 pm That would depend on which version of Goku that Toriyama was talking about. Probably not the Goku that we saw on chapters #102 and #103. Maybe the UI Sign version from his fight against Gas?

That doesn't work. If Piccolo is as strong as UI Sign then he really doesn't rival Goku.

It looks like all 4 Saiyans are maybe comparable after all, perhaps with Gohan as the number one in brute strength alone, but nevertheless Goku and Vegeta make up the gap in experience and skill. From this chapter's showing Broly seems to be lagging behind all the other 3, as his raw strength was c...

Android 19 [At his max against Vegeta but can't absorb more power] vs Piccolo [Start of the Android arc]. Future Trunks [Start of the Android arc and no Super Saiyan] vs Gohan and Krillin [Both start of the Android arc]. Chaoz [Android arc] vs 1st form Freeza [Namek arc]. Videl [Post Ki training] vs...

So the chapter is out and it looks like Gohan Beast is on UI Goku's level. Its hard to say if he's stronger or not when Goku was briefly stated to have advantage over him because of his experience and Goku also ended their match quickly. Gohan Beast was only able to land hits on UI Goku when he tap...

I think Super should end with whatever Toriyama left in his notes. If they want to milk the franchise some more (but without Toriyama for obvious reasons) they should've change the name and start something new - a "non canon" continuation. It's the best way to avoid even bigger mess (beca...

So people think current Gogeta or Vegetto can't beat Beerus? :shock: No, they cannot. This is the only counter to Beerus' power: https://i.ibb.co/TYZxg2C/Screenshot-2024-03-16-at-23-49-20-Dragon-Ball-Super-Chapter-26-Mangakakalot.png Immortality. Nothing else can counter Beerus. That is why no one ...

So people think current Gogeta or Vegetto can't beat Beerus?

Like SupremeKai25 said, it's almost certain they will animate at least Moro and Granola eventually, I would also assume they'd make a television retelling of the Broli and Superhero movies. The "Super" brand is not going anywhere soon I think. However, there is something to be said about ...

GatoF wrote: ↑Thu Mar 14, 2024 12:57 am (DBS) Base Broly vs (DBS) 4th form Freeza

Broly finger flicks. With Ikari (Which is 10 times base) he was holding his own against SSB Goku.

It seems the chapter clarifies how all the characters stand in comparison to each other. 1. Gogeta/Vegetto Blue 2. Gohan/Broly 3. Goku/Vegeta/Piccolo Beerus should probably be in tier 2 considering he's stated to be on par with Broly and weaker than Vegetto, but realistically he's either tier 0 or ...

Seems like

The real question is how they'll redo the EoZ. I find it nigh-impossible that it will remain unchanged after all the developments of Super. I could see Goku showing off UI in the final fight with Uub to tie it all together: https://i.ibb.co/WH4VKH3/l0u5bxq5ztr91.webp I certainly can't imagine Goku ...

I'd be fine with Super just ending. Make a final arc where Goku kills Black Frieza and finally beats 100% Beerus in a rematch, then wrap it all up with an EOZ mini-arc and call it a day. Goku's story and Super are nearing the climax, the ever-moving goalpost that is Beerus will have to be surpassed...

I have lots.

• Goku Black
• Zamasu
• Broly
• Cheelai
• Frost
• Cabba
• Caulifla
• Kale
• Toppo
• Hit

GatoF wrote: ↑Tue Mar 05, 2024 1:26 pm Who is the strongest character from Dragon Ball Z current manga SSJ1 Trunks and Goten can defeat together?

I guess Dabura.

Current Goten and Trunks (Post-Super Hero arc) enter the ToP who is the strongest contestant they defeat? 1. Base Goten and Trunks 2. SSJ Goten and Trunks 3. Base Gotenks 4. SSJ Gotenks 5. SSJ3 Gotenks 1.- Everyone the humans defeated by strength (Not Mafuba). 2.- Lavender and maybe some weak U9 gu...

Hugo Boss wrote: ↑Tue Feb 20, 2024 6:54 pm Chapter is out and, according to Viz’s translation, Beerus doesn’t exactly frame the silver-haired ultra instinct as Goku’s best technique. He just talks about it generally. Not that it changes the current state of things, but I think it’s worth pointing out.

He does.

I find it odd that people say that Whis not seeing the Gas fight means he doesn't know about it. He literally plays a video of the Freeza fight on Namek and explains exactly what Super Saiyan is on his first appearance.

Angels can just see the history of their universe easily.

To much time is waste on Trunks and Goten this chapter. It's boring.

Next chapter looks to be worth it though.

1) Broly movie Veku Who can the fat fusion(or even the skinny one, if there's any difference) defeat from DBZ? 2) How about a EoZ version of Veku, with the fusees at their strongest? is there any major fighter they could take out even if they screw it up? Can they beat Namek Freeza or even the andr...