Kanzenshuu

Maybe Beerus gave him the plans for the android designs. From what I read, what really happened in terms of 17 & 18 was that he found their human components made them far too powerful. Basically he enhanced human natural perpetual energy generation which cause them to have an "unlimited&quo...

^ I dont know who's at fault or to blame or how to fix it but I can say right now. The current state of things does not feel right, natural, organic, or true to the spirit of dragonball or even the first part of Z at all. I appreciate the comedy coming back, but the characterizations and story still...

^ considering Buu directive from his original owner was to destroy planets and its unlikely Beerus would have let Bibidi do it without his permission it wouldn't be too far off to say Bibidi worked for Beerus and Bibidi summoned Buu to do the dirty work. That way Beerus wouldn't have even known of B...

Favorites: SSJ4 form - I'm a big fan of original DB and the call back to the Oozaru form is great. GT Vegeta and Goku - Its different but still looks their style in terms of their personalities Older Future Trunks. - Just cool Raddiz - awesome hair Vegito- Looks cool Dabura - Menancing King Piccolo ...

I kind of get that they can't have people running a muck and destroying planets at will unless it was sanctioned. I.E. Saiyans taking over other peaceful planets. But my questions still is where are the other Gods, God of Creation has to be real thing or is that actually Whis? Or are planets just no...

^ Agree, the Saiyan Arc was a fine continuation of the Dragonball series. The problem was the Namek Frieza saga kept exponentially increasing power levels and continued the trend, but even at that SSJ2 was only 2x as powerful so the leap was not as severe. I might help if we made a multiplier timeli...

^ I'm not sure why I was quoted above. It may not be fact, but it is certainly a possibility? He could be up all night worrying about the quality of Super or LOLing at the fans all the way to the bank for all we know. The idea that neither are possibilities would prove that someone would a biased vi...

^ do you really want God Ki handed out like Candy on halloween the way SSJ was..??? We now have two new possible candidates for God Powers Gohan & Piccolo. ugh. My problem is giving them God powers is literally the ONLY way they can catch up to Goku or Vegeta at this point or they would have to ...

^ True, but this has gone to ridiculous levels. We literally have a "God" tier which no ordinary being can obtain naturally except for Freeza and Monaka's race somehow.. At least in Dragonball everyone was more or less competitive based on martial arts skills. Vegeta did it by himself, so...

The thing about the 6-10-15 scale is that it doesn't have to be taken as literally, but can also be taken as tiers. That way, a 7 can be 100 times stronger than a 6, an 8 100 times stronger than a 7 and so on. This means that SSGSS Goku being just a 7 during his battle with Freeza (and let's say it...

@Kunzait_83 Thank you, Thank you, Thank you!!!! I feel exactly the same way. If you were a fan since the early 90s you have a different feeling about the entire Dragonball series. I.E people newer to the franchise love Super. I was a fan since the original dragonball so watching the progression was ...

No body in universe 6 should be anywhere near beerus or god goku/vegeta. Think about how damn powerful goku was at buu saga ,he was famous in the otherworld ,trained by grand kai,defeated a unstoppable monster who was feared by gods for 1000s of years.Goku defeated a force of nature that was always...

^ True, but this has gone to ridiculous levels. We literally have a "God" tier which no ordinary being can obtain naturally except for Frieza and Monaka's race somehow..

At least in Dragonball everyone was more or less competitive based on martial arts skills.

Gorou wrote:Do not think that God Kì can be activated and disabled?

Yeah I don't either especially when Toriyama says it merges, becomes obtained and part of the user.
That doesn't imply an on off switch for me..

I can't imagine Freeza being perfectly ok with monsters who are stronger than he is. I guess a emperor like himself knows that there is forces out there beyond his power. Freeza has a ego when someone is stronger than him after losing. Freeza knows that Majin Buu, Zuno, Beerus, Whis and his brother...

I think 6-10-15 is actually worth following, since it comes from Toriyama himself, so it's as good a source as it gets. On the other hand it is indeed elegant to assume that Goku put Super Saiyan on top of a non-god base. That way the transformation would make sense. Disagree on this one. Toriyama ...

Even if there was, the manga wouldn't be the "canon" source for Super. In this case, the anime is the original and primary source. Toyotaro's manga is a condensed adaptation of it and exists mostly for promotional purposes. That's not true. Toyotaro's manga is based directly on Toriyama's...

So at first I was OK with Super, but now I'm starting to have my doubts... I said this in another thread but Beerus is a ridiculous character in both feats and power scale. Whis is 50% more powerful than Beerus and has no known feats at all. Beerus is the most powerful of the Gods which makes explor...

I'd say Boo works fine in that "ancient sealed evil" kind of way but yeah, the Android arc is forced story-telling incarnate and at least the anime introducing Supreme Kai let us know that the Gods have some kind of hierarchy. I agree, the android arc is my least favorite. However, it did...

My issue isn't necessarily the feats themselves, rather he's unnecessarily added to things we didn't have questions to. I.e the size of King Kai's planet. The dinosaurs. Old Kai in the Z sword. The worse for me is having him actually be at a party hosted by Vegeta's father in Beerus honor only to wa...