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Beerus' nonsensical scaling really got people going through movie credits

17 can fit in the as strong as SSB but weaker than SSB Goku tier

Yea. Right next to the bit about the new movie and it's "new history" or whatever, Broly is still labeled as the "greatest enemy"

Pretty amusing

So uh, that promo bit for the new movie still refers to Broly as the "greatest enemy"

Does anyone believe it's still possible for Beerus to be superior to Granola, UI Goku, Moro, Broly, and Jiren all while being rivaled by Vegito from the Trunks arc? Beerus has been confirmed to be comfortably above even Broly arc blue fusion. Shin was just dead wrong. One might wonder, what the hel...

It's obviously been retconned but how much power do ya'll presume Beerus was using in the GoD battle royale for a "weakling" like Belmod to be able to make him bleed?

Don't know if anyone has caught this line before, but it seems to have been confirmed that Vegeta is stronger than Broly now: https://i.imgur.com/xF6eH8x.jpg No reason to think Whis forgot about Broly considering he was present for the events of DBS:B and fought him. Looks like MUI Goku = MUI Moro ...

As expected. It's not Moro

With all this pre-production time ya'll really think they'll waste a brand new movie on a retelling? I seriously highly doubt that This will be something new Wr have zero idea of how much pre-production time the film has actually had. We first heard about a new movie being in the works a couple mon...

With all this pre-production time ya'll really think they'll waste a brand new movie on a retelling? I seriously highly doubt that

This will be something new

It wouldn't be the first time they retconned someone's power

The way Beerus speaks about the himself and the Gods of Destruction in general does give off the vibe that they're still stronger than everybody else

So about Granola. He's supposedly the strongest apart from the gods, right? Does this mean that despite being stronger than current UI, he's still weaker than all the other gods of destructions? Could Belmod actually be stronger than Jiren now? Guys like Jiren and Broly were hyped up to be on that l...

If Broly/Jiren was as clear cut as you say it is, people wouldn't be constantly arguing about it

Whis saying he doesn't know anyone stronger than Goku and Vegeta is hard evidence that they should both be stronger than Broly at this point. Along with Goku assuming the strongest is himself or Vegeta, not Broly Goku being stronger than Broly has been known for a while now. He called Moro73 the st...

My hot take is that even though ancillary media will obviously delight at the chance to pair SS4 characters up with either God or Blue, as the post-3 transformations of two divergent sequels, there just isn't enough to go on between the sequels themselves to make any kind of reasonable estimate as ...

So basically Gods > Granolah > every mortal?

How does that work when Broly, Jiren and Moro have all been stated to be stronger than gods at one point or another?

I've seen nothing that makes me think Vegeta can contend with people GoD level+. Belmod who is weaker than Jiren was able to hurt Beerus and all the other gods. And going off this new chapter, Vegeta just doesn't look to be on that level Also it was Moro73 that was stated as the toughest/strongest/w...

False hype. They do this every arc to hype up the new enemy and whatever new form Goku gets. They need to hype it up afterall. Later, it will simply get retconned again to give Goku something to shoot for. Then Broly never had anything to stand on. His "strongest enemy" hype came from pro...

SSJ Blue Gogeta >>>> Broly >= Beerus >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Current UI Goku. This remains true until proven otherwise. This scale is a car crash when you take into account VJumps statement about Goku being the strongest mortal in the universe (U7) False hype. They do this e...

SSJ Blue Gogeta >>>> Broly >= Beerus >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Current UI Goku. This remains true until proven otherwise. This scale is a car crash when you take into account VJumps statement about Goku being the strongest mortal in the universe (U7)