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by Ash57
Sat Oct 22, 2016 4:48 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Could kid Goten and Trunks beat Namek-era Freeza?
Replies: 73
Views: 8682

Re: Could kid Goten and Trunks beat Namek-era Freeza?

No way, even BoG Goku's base was below Frieza, there's no chance the kids who are much weaker could do anything to Frieza. I don't take into account BoG or any of these new materials when talking about the manga. In the Boo saga there's enough evidence that the base Saiyans are far above Freeza. Th...
by Ash57
Sat Oct 22, 2016 3:46 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: How powerful would a fusion of 2 to 3 ordinary warrior-type Namekians be? Each has 3,000 power level
Replies: 4
Views: 789

Re: How powerful would a fusion of 2 to 3 ordinary warrior-type Namekians be? Each has 3,000 power level

Piccolo was heavily implied to be around the 270,000 mark by Nail, but the latter didn't know Piccolo was wearing weighted clothing, so take those out and you have Big Green surpassing the ~300,000 range. After fusing with Nail, Piccolo surpassed at least the 1.3 million mark, which means he got a ~...
by Ash57
Sat Oct 22, 2016 3:40 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Could kid Goten and Trunks beat Namek-era Freeza?
Replies: 73
Views: 8682

Re: Could kid Goten and Trunks beat Namek-era Freeza?

Uh....nope, unless this is some anime filler i'm not aware of. And yes, they made #18 fear for her life with that blast, and mind you, it was a SUPPRESSED ki blast.
by Ash57
Sat Oct 22, 2016 10:10 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Could kid Goten and Trunks beat Namek-era Freeza?
Replies: 73
Views: 8682

Re: Could kid Goten and Trunks beat Namek-era Freeza?

No way, even BoG Goku's base was below Frieza, there's no chance the kids who are much weaker could do anything to Frieza. Not really, on Revival of F it is implied by Tagoma that Base Gohan was the greatest threat to their army, before it was known he could transform into SSJ, which heavily implie...
by Ash57
Sat Oct 22, 2016 9:15 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread
Replies: 37471
Views: 3405695

Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Here's some new fights: - Avo and Cado vs. Lord Slug (young). - 7 Cell Juniors vs. Kaioshin, Piccolo (Boo arc), SSJ Trunks and SSJ Son Goten (28th Budokai). - Muten Roshi (base, Resurrection F) vs. Raditz. - Demon Clan (Drum, Tambourine, Cymbal) vs. Son Goku, Tenshinhan, Yamcha, Krillin and Muten R...
by Ash57
Sat Oct 22, 2016 8:42 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Could kid Goten and Trunks beat Namek-era Freeza?
Replies: 73
Views: 8682

Re: Could kid Goten and Trunks beat Namek-era Freeza?

Each of them could easily defeat 100% Freeza with their base power. No way, even BoG Goku's base was below Frieza, there's no chance the kids who are much weaker could do anything to Frieza. Not really, on Revival of F it is implied by Tagoma that Base Gohan was the greatest threat to their army, b...
by Ash57
Fri Oct 21, 2016 5:22 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Could kid Goten and Trunks beat Namek-era Freeza?
Replies: 73
Views: 8682

Re: Could kid Goten and Trunks beat Namek-era Freeza?

Today i learned that a power level below Freeza can make Android 18 fear for her life with a SUPRESSED ki blast

SSJ Goten and Trunks >> Piccolo
by Ash57
Thu Oct 20, 2016 2:40 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Could kid Goten and Trunks beat Namek-era Freeza?
Replies: 73
Views: 8682

Re: Could kid Goten and Trunks beat Namek-era Freeza?

Kid Goten and Trunks are FAR stronger than Freeza. Picolo states in the manga that both Goten and Trunks are their only hope(against Boo), BEFORE fusion is even mentioned, which means Goten and Trunks are decently above Piccolo, who is strong enough to hold his own against a Cell Jr. in the manga . ...
by Ash57
Thu Oct 20, 2016 2:34 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: How would Golden Cooler fare vs the Z Fighters?
Replies: 24
Views: 3833

Re: How would Golden Cooler fare vs the Z Fighters?

Cooler is weaker than Freeza in their first appearances. The moment Goku goes Super Saiyan he beats Cooler immediately. Meanwhile on Namek Goku and 100% Freeza was still going blow for blow. Except Goku explicitly says Cooler is stronger than Freeza in the actual movie, not to mention Cooler fought...
by Ash57
Tue Oct 18, 2016 10:13 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Would Super Saiyan 4 have made Son Goku from the Majin Buu Arc stronger than both Ultimate Gohan and Super Buu?
Replies: 100
Views: 11375

Re: Would Super Saiyan 4 have made Son Goku from the Majin Buu Arc stronger than both Ultimate Gohan and Super Buu?

@Steven-Bloodriver Three words for you sir; GT Perfect Files @TheUltimateNinja i agree that it is kinda ridiculous, that's why i try to diminish the SSj multiplier for Vegetto, Gotenks and etc. The Dragon Ball GT: Perfect Files CANNOT be used as your own personal scapegoat, Ash57! For they are like...
by Ash57
Tue Oct 18, 2016 9:09 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Would Super Saiyan 4 have made Son Goku from the Majin Buu Arc stronger than both Ultimate Gohan and Super Buu?
Replies: 100
Views: 11375

Re: Would Super Saiyan 4 have made Son Goku from the Majin Buu Arc stronger than both Ultimate Gohan and Super Buu?

@Steven Bloodriver Three words for you sir; GT Perfect Files. Your points are not higher than what GTPF tells us. Actually, i have an idea. Copy and paste all for your points here, and i'll debunk all of them to end this nonsense. How does that sound? @TheUltimateNinja i agree that it is kinda ridic...
by Ash57
Tue Oct 18, 2016 9:01 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: How would Golden Cooler fare vs the Z Fighters?
Replies: 24
Views: 3833

Re: How would Golden Cooler fare vs the Z Fighters?

Giving cooler the same boost that Freeza had that made him stronger than SSGSS Goku who is stronger than SSJG Goku would allow Cooler to beat the tar out of anyone in DBZ. God boost makes anyone(yes even giving Hercules) strong enough to casually beat anyone in the buu saga So you're saying someone...
by Ash57
Tue Oct 18, 2016 8:58 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Would Super Saiyan 4 have made Son Goku from the Majin Buu Arc stronger than both Ultimate Gohan and Super Buu?
Replies: 100
Views: 11375

Re: Would Super Saiyan 4 have made Son Goku from the Majin Buu Arc stronger than both Ultimate Gohan and Super Buu?

Actually, going by character reactions Base Gotenks' power is even more absurd. They think Base Gotenks (pre) has a chance against Buu despite knowing Vegeta got killed, so Gotenks is probably 2x SSJ2 or 1/2 SSJ3, and his SSJ would be 25x SSJ3 Goku. Now, Piccolo feels his SSJ is no match for Super ...
by Ash57
Tue Oct 18, 2016 7:27 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: How would Golden Cooler fare vs the Z Fighters?
Replies: 24
Views: 3833

Re: How would Golden Cooler fare vs the Z Fighters?

The gap is not that big then. Both 5th form Cooler and 100% Frieza got their arses kicked by SSJ Goku. I think SSJB Goku or Vegeta post ROSAT would take care of them pretty easily. But SSJ Goku in the Cooler movie was a lot stronger thanks to his Zenkai, he was able to keep up with Cooler using onl...
by Ash57
Tue Oct 18, 2016 7:07 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Would Super Saiyan 4 have made Son Goku from the Majin Buu Arc stronger than both Ultimate Gohan and Super Buu?
Replies: 100
Views: 11375

Re: Would Super Saiyan 4 have made Son Goku from the Majin Buu Arc stronger than both Ultimate Gohan and Super Buu?

Is it nonsense because it disagrees with your point of view and proves that Gotenks is an absolutely, incredibly powerful guy? I'm pretty sure SS4 wasn't a 10x multiplier; as in 4000x base... I always thought it was 500x Base; making it 1.25x Super saiyan three. The reason for this being Super Saiya...
by Ash57
Tue Oct 18, 2016 6:27 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Would Super Saiyan 4 have made Son Goku from the Majin Buu Arc stronger than both Ultimate Gohan and Super Buu?
Replies: 100
Views: 11375

Re: Would Super Saiyan 4 have made Son Goku from the Majin Buu Arc stronger than both Ultimate Gohan and Super Buu?

Super Saiyan 4 at minimum has to be a 10x multiplier because Golden Oozaru is a 10x multiplier and SSJ4 can't be weaker than Oozaru. 1. Where in the GTPF it is stated that Golden Oozaru is a x10 multiplier? Again, another baseless assumption 2. GT Perfect Files disagrees. Why are you refusing to ta...
by Ash57
Tue Oct 18, 2016 1:29 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Could Piccolo expel Nail and Kami-sama?
Replies: 7
Views: 1735

Re: Could Piccolo expel Nail and Kami-sama?

Wait a minute, didn't Nail say "All right" when Piccolo said that if he did not like the outcome of their fusion, he would kick him out?
by Ash57
Tue Oct 18, 2016 12:20 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Would Super Saiyan 4 have made Son Goku from the Majin Buu Arc stronger than both Ultimate Gohan and Super Buu?
Replies: 100
Views: 11375

Re: Would Super Saiyan 4 have made Son Goku from the Majin Buu Arc stronger than both Ultimate Gohan and Super Buu?

So Gotenks is 10 ssj3 Gokus? 1. No, because Super Saiyan 4 is not a x10 multiplier. I'm tired of proving this. 2. Maybe, actually there are people who have Gotenks being 500 SSj3 Gokus due to the implications in the original manga. That is where you are gravely mistaken, Ash57. For the Super Saiyan...
by Ash57
Mon Oct 17, 2016 7:35 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Would Super Saiyan 4 have made Son Goku from the Majin Buu Arc stronger than both Ultimate Gohan and Super Buu?
Replies: 100
Views: 11375

Re: Would Super Saiyan 4 have made Son Goku from the Majin Buu Arc stronger than both Ultimate Gohan and Super Buu?

Any Boo shown, except Super Boo, South Kaioshin Boo, Gotenks Boo and Gohan Boo, they're the ones who would stomp him. Other than those 4, he would probably stomp any Boo. Any form of Gotenks(Post RoSaT) can make a complete fool out of SSj3 Goku. Take Goku's strain out, maximize all of his abilities,...