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That line never made any sense to me, i mean, doesn't Gohan already have access to his Ultimate State?! Piccolo retrained him to the point where he could reaccess his Ultimate Form. So it doesn't make sense for him to achieve something else that's yet the same?

Jiren is leagues above merged Zamasu.. Dude is supposed to be no selling Blue KK 20 and merged Zamasu was dusted by one KK attack. . If you wanna go by the manga, perfect blue can somewhat compete with merged Zamasu, and even in the manga Goku more than likely is gonna need to new form to beat Jire...

I really don't see how it's supposed to be "over-analysing" things here, and i hate it when people call it this way. I prefer to call it Speculation and that's really what it is. I don't see what's wrong with a little bit of speculation, afterall, it's what a fanbase/community tends to do,...

avasatu wrote:Just because something is heavily implied for the future doesn't make it a present fact.

Come on, You seriously believe Goku's new Form isn't going to fair any better against Jiren than his 20x Kaioken?? Even though all the evidence says otherwise.

That's a fact. No it's not. "Goku was a child with a tail" is a fact. "The upcoming power-up is _______ of a multiplier" is something fans are extrapolating all on their own, hasn't been defined, likely never will be defined, and even if it were could be something entirely diffe...

I seriously, truly, verily doubt that any type of multiplier will be introduced in the actual show for Goku's new form. That's something the databooks or guidebooks mention. But I'm not gonna say the numbers are completely meaningless and don't matter. They matter to some fans. Personally I don't c...

It's not win-win: I would dislike it if they started over-explaining these fights by issuing direct comparisons and values. I think it's reductive story-telling and I have negative interest in it. I actively dislike each portion of the series that already has this, and I'm grateful how much of the ...

I really don't want anything number related in battle powers thrown into Super. Especially with regards to transformations and their multipliers. The last thing we need is more meticulous number crunching from fans who live or die on how much validity a story has with who has the biggest number in ...

Unlike any other Opening preceding it, Limit Break X Survivor was made for this arc. We can assume it's lyrics were composed with it in mind. Really, this opening shouldn't be taken with the same grain of salt as other openings. Because 1- Unlike DBZ, Toei knows what will happen on it, so the openin...

"Even when you don't expect him to, He still survives, Seriously? One hundredfold?! The coolest survivor. Even the God of Destruction appears puny!" Wow! Mind blown! It makes you wonder, WHY would they put all of that in the lyrics of the new opening song if it wasn't going to be true? The...

Woow guys! A major update! I just found out about this, this is in pertains to the ending theme lyrics, and while i know that it's just a lyrics, most of it seems true so far and they are meant for clues, so without further adoe, check out the sentence near the end of the lyrics on the right side, ...

Woow guys! A major update! I just found out about this, this is in pertains to the ending theme lyrics, and while i know that it's just a lyrics, most of it seems true so far and they are meant for clues, so without further adoe, check out the sentence near the end of the lyrics on the right side, a...

I've pretty much given up on powerscaling and multipliers at this point. It will be strong enough to let him fight and perhaps beat Jiren. That's all that really can be expected. That's only because the writers don't want to give any, if they've been consistent with them from the start, we could ha...

It's an interesting idea and I could see it being true. More likely we will never be given an official multiplier. Never say never. It took what, over two decades to get those multipliers in the SEG. Which sucked and were stupid anyway. How did they suck? Why were they "stupid"? They made...

It's an interesting idea and I could see it being true. More likely we will never be given an official multiplier. Thanks. Well, it's true that Toei and Toriyama will most likely be either too lazy, or non-caring to go through the 1 second trouble of giving us a simple number, but even if it won't ...

There are some reasons why i believe this could turn out to be the case. For starters, this seems to be the namek arc all over again, it was the same against Freeza back then: 1. Goku does 20x kaioken (to no effect) 2. Goku does Spirit Bomb (also to no effect) 3. Goku gets a new Transformation that'...

Polyphase Avatron wrote:I don't really see the resemblance to Beerus' aura.

Fair enough, maybe i should have worded it a bit differently: It looks closer to Beerus' "aura" than either SSJ Blue and SSJ God. That better?

So like SSJ God, it has: 1. Light balls in his aura (SSJ Blue didn't have it like that), 2. He possesses irises, and 3. Heavily resembles Goku's Base Form.

And there are a few things we can tell right of the bet. For starters, there's purple in it on the outer regions, and the way these particular aura looks is almost the same as Beerus' when he powered up against Goku back in the BoG arc of Super. (Coincidince? Or intentionally designed to tell us Gok...

We know Jiren is strong already. What part of Toppo saying he has absolutely no chance at defeating Jiren after a serious fight not get? Maybe he doesnt want to just eliminate everyone because he wants them to enjoy their last moments as warriors and he senses no threat. Did you forget they only ha...