Kanzenshuu

Maybe Goku was wrong? Whis would be a more reliable narrator in this circumstances, he knows Beerus fully. He did train him after all. I mean he immediately agree with vegeta after his assessment about Jiren. He would have agreed with Goku had it been true. I read the translated drafts from toriyam...

I just thought about something. When Vegeta talks about jiren’s disciplined mind and ki control is what made him so dangerous and a tough opponent. What if with Broly and cell max, they needed to have control over their minds. Then they pose a threat? Maybe cause Broly can’t control his mind, so he...

Broly vs. Ultra Instinct / Ultra Ego / Gas / Granolah / Moro / Beerus is a fruitless discussion in my current stance, as there are a lot of oddities to adjust. The biggest oddity of all is Granolah's/Gas's wish to be the strongest in the universe, probably. You'd have to assume that Broly's FP powe...

:problem: He's the creator of the fucking series. Christ... And he said the exact same thing about Broly and Frieza movies. If we want too, we can go back to when he talked about Cell and said he was unstoppable. What I am getting at this all hype for the movie. This isn’t something we should argue ...

I think people are taking this too seriously. Toriyama is trying to hype his own movie. Trying to sell tickets. I wouldn’t take what he says as canon. He's the creator of the fucking series. Christ... And he said the exact same thing about Broly and Frieza movies. If we want too, we can go back to ...

I think people are taking this too seriously. Toriyama is trying to hype his own movie. Trying to sell tickets. I wouldn’t take what he says as canon. Also piccolo being on par with Goku? Which form of Goku? Maybe he meant making piccolo relevant. Not making them equal in power but make piccolo in t...

*snip* It's presented sloppily, but yes, that's the intended thrust. I don't think it has anything to do with Bardock's power-up; rather, Goku distinctly implies that his Ultra Instinct (at least the one in the Granolah arc) is nerfed to hell right now, so Sign is his strongest available form with ...

How far does Orange Piccolo go in this gauntlet?

1. Goku Black

2. Zamasu (no immortality)

3. Kefla

4. Sanganbo

5. GoD Toppo

6. Ssj Broly

Orange Piccolo vs SSB Goku (Moro arc) SSJ3 Vegito (Buu arc) vs Golden Ape Baby Final Gohan vs Full Power Broly Hit (U6 arc) vs Base Kefla (ToP anime) 1. Personally, I have orange piccolo around Toppo’s level in GoD form. Goku wins, with some difficulty. 2. Vegito wins. It was stated in Gt perfect f...

I doubt that since Moro was basically Toyo's arc and there is nothing suggesting that Toyo will even time-skip to the timeframe to Super Hero. It's also tiresome that every time there's pacing issues with the manga people put it on Toriyama. Like people were certain that the reason USS was rushed b...

I think he is letting it drag cause Toriyama prob doesn’t have an idea yet for the next arc after super hero. I hope whatever he and Toyotaro come up with, it will be fun. This arc has its ups and downs. I wish it was a weekly series, it would drag less. I doubt that since Moro was basically Toyo's...

I think he is letting it drag cause Toriyama prob doesn’t have an idea yet for the next arc after super hero. I hope whatever he and Toyotaro come up with, it will be fun. This arc has its ups and downs. I wish it was a weekly series, it would drag less.

Can't Gas have just weakened to the point that Ultra Instinct Sign does just surpass him no? It's possible, although why didn't Vegeta let him visibly injured? He was above silver UI, if he was weakening Gas, that was not properly conveyed. If Sign is enough, UE should've been dealing more damage, ...

What if after the ToP, Jiren decided to train in U7 with Goku and Vegeta? Let’s say he was involved in Broly arc, Moro, and Granolah arc. How would they change? And how strong would he become?

Hellspawn28 wrote: ↑Sun Jun 19, 2022 2:50 pm Gamma 1 & 2 vs. Goku Black and Zamasu

Rules:

No fusion
No outside help
No immortality

Who wins?

Black can get stronger the longer he fights or gets Zenkais. But Zamasu with no immortality is almost worthless in this conflict. I think the gamma’s win with mid difficulty.

He turns his gaze toward Vegeta, who was sitting silently on a rock. "Come on, cut it out already. If you keep on staying still for so long you'll get out of shape." Goku said as he slouched towards him and raised his index finger. Ever since he had come to Beerus's planet, Vegeta did not ...

He turns his gaze toward Vegeta, who was sitting silently on a rock. "Come on, cut it out already. If you keep on staying still for so long you'll get out of shape." Goku said as he slouched towards him and raised his index finger. Ever since he had come to Beerus's planet, Vegeta did not ...

Cell Max vs.. Tagoma (Need to start off with a canon fodder) Golden Freeza (RoF) Hit Goku Black (Base) Zamasu (No immortality) SSjR Goku Black Fused Zamasu (No immortality) Jiren DBS LSSj Broli Moro Granolah Gas (Unlock Potential) How far does he go? Honestly, if Trunks, goten, and 18 can harm cell...

Final Gohan vs. Transformed Moro Final Gohan vs. Perfected Ultra Instinct Moro Would Gohan able to defeat Moro just like Goku did? To be honest? I think gohan loses both rounds. Form what I saw of that form. He again, was super over confident and cocky. Moro would take advantage of this and just dr...

I am just upset that Vegeta is being disrespected hard again. I know we haven’t seen the whole chapter yet. But yeah, it doesn’t look good for the prince. I knew this was coming. I was hoping that it would be a 3 vs 1 (Saiyans/Granolah vs Gas). But as I expected…goku unlocks another transformation o...