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by The Undying
Sun Dec 20, 2020 8:03 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 42696
Views: 5666034

Re: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

Expectations for the Survivor Granolah Arc: None. I seriously have no idea what this'll be about, how long it'll go on for, or whether I'm even going to like it, but that's what makes it exciting. It's one thing to be mildly disappointed we're not exploring EoZ, but people acting like it spells doo...
by The Undying
Wed Dec 16, 2020 7:44 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 42696
Views: 5666034

Re: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

So, we've seen quite literally half a dozen panels from the next arc so far, and we're already getting the expressions of disappointment and the group opining on " now, y'see, the real problem with Dragon Ball Super is... " Good grief. Bodes well for the future. :roll: "GUYS WHAT IF ...
by The Undying
Tue Dec 15, 2020 12:05 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: The Super Re-Read
Replies: 277
Views: 59575

Re: The Super Re-Read

While I don't think it's necessarily wrong to take the character in this direction (in fact, I think it's a very organic progression from his Boo arc characterization), I do think that it is implausible at this point that Goku would become this lax and overconfident, at least by the Zen Exhibition ...
by The Undying
Mon Dec 14, 2020 3:38 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: The Super Re-Read
Replies: 277
Views: 59575

Re: The Super Re-Read

Just want to quickly point out that Gohan says "human", not "Earthling", in Viz's version. Unless this was a post-release revision, I don't see how that's far off from the Japanese dialogue if ningen was indeed the term. Although I guess "hitori no ningen" changes the m...
by The Undying
Mon Dec 14, 2020 12:14 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 42696
Views: 5666034

Re: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

These drafts are basically Super's version of DB 517, and I'm not just referring to the title. Ugh.

Could be indicative of a timeskip to EoZ, but I won't hold my breath.
by The Undying
Sun Dec 13, 2020 10:54 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: The Super Re-Read
Replies: 277
Views: 59575

Re: The Super Re-Read

My opinions on 39 and 40 haven't changed all that much. They're undoubtedly flawed chapters, but 39 arguably represents some of Toyotaro's best work on all of his DB-related material. You could say it's one of the best chapters in Super. It's all a bit reflective of what I said earlier about preferr...
by The Undying
Sat Dec 12, 2020 8:45 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: I can’t believe we still haven’t gotten a proper backstory on Beerus and Whis yet after all these years..
Replies: 20
Views: 2515

Re: I can’t believe we still haven’t gotten a proper backstory on Beerus and Whis yet after all these years..

The writers are really lazy and careless to not even give us such basic info about the characters that are most relevant to the story and are always present! However, I'm not convinced you're asking for that. Beerus saying/indicating he's hundreds of millions of years old is more than enough backst...
by The Undying
Fri Dec 11, 2020 8:21 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: The Super Re-Read
Replies: 277
Views: 59575

Re: The Super Re-Read

It's somewhat difficult for me to take a character like Frost or Cabba as a basis for comparison, given the different structures of their introductory arcs. That's fair. I'd still contend that introducing these alt-universe Piccolos for the first time in the series only to give them brief cameos go...
by The Undying
Fri Dec 11, 2020 2:59 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 39935
Views: 3904457

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

I mean each to their own but Broly might have surprised vegeta with his power That's what I mean. The manga's ToP is nearly identical in its approach: Goku and Vegeta in Blue are both caught off-guard by Kale's new strength (Vegeta specifically is knocked away and very nearly eliminated from the to...
by The Undying
Fri Dec 11, 2020 2:38 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 39935
Views: 3904457

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

I still don't see anything especially inconsistent about Goku/Vegeta's fight against Broly. Broly does force Vegeta into his God form, but then Vegeta effortlessly one-shots him. After Broly powers up (and I'd say his transition into his Ikari form is already starting at this point, judging from the...
by The Undying
Thu Dec 10, 2020 11:56 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: The Super Re-Read
Replies: 277
Views: 59575

Re: The Super Re-Read

The Jimeze thing was a jokey Marvel no-prize answer. Damn. I should have figured. :lol: So while I do think there would be fans, particularly those who focus on world-building, who would want more, I really can only think that the extent to which the Namekians' role in the manga is brought up for c...
by The Undying
Thu Dec 10, 2020 7:47 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 39935
Views: 3904457

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

To be clear, it is largely a matter of personal interpretation; there's not really solid evidence to favor either side of the argument as far as the movie's scaling is concerned. Toriyama doesn't currently adhere to hard numbers as much as the guides and TV anime, and according to interviews, FP was...
by The Undying
Thu Dec 10, 2020 6:37 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 39935
Views: 3904457

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

The Broly movie proves as much with Goku going through his forms and doing pretty well throughout them all despite Broly powering up from when he was solidly outclassing SSG Vegeta. SSG Vegeta seemed more surprised than thoroughly outclassed in that instance, but I agree that it certainly proves pe...
by The Undying
Thu Dec 10, 2020 5:46 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 39935
Views: 3904457

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

I don't think you need to presume the transformations work differently to subscribe to the idea of smaller boosts when used with fusions. Transformation amplifications in general becoming gradually smaller as its user grows stronger has been a widely touted theory for some time, based on things Tori...
by The Undying
Thu Dec 10, 2020 1:40 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: The Super Re-Read
Replies: 277
Views: 59575

Re: The Super Re-Read

Jimeze isn't a Yardratian. He's just a member of another race in the multiverse that looks like them, just as many races resemble Earthlings. That's... uh, a decent in-universe explanation if you really want to rationalize it, I guess. It's all very meaningless to me. Anyone who is familiar with th...
by The Undying
Thu Dec 10, 2020 12:16 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Why do some have a dislike of the climax of the Zamasu/Black arc?
Replies: 88
Views: 7577

Re: Why do some have a dislike of the climax of the Zamasu/Black arc?

-The Future Trunks that we know of is not the same as the first Trunks who stopped the androids. Technically speaking, THIS Future Trunks did not cause Cell to go back in time, and in fact had prevented it. I would also like to add that Cell would have been taken cared of if Vegeta wasn't being suc...
by The Undying
Thu Dec 10, 2020 4:29 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Why do some have a dislike of the climax of the Zamasu/Black arc?
Replies: 88
Views: 7577

Re: Why do some have a dislike of the climax of the Zamasu/Black arc?

The point about Trunks' character was not so he would be fucked over and be constantly sad, it was originally to be like a symbol of hope ( HOPE!!! ). I disagree. Trunks isn't a symbol of hope. Quite the opposite, actually; he's a symbol of tragedy, or more appropriately the adoption of hope in the...
by The Undying
Mon Dec 07, 2020 9:20 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: The Super Re-Read
Replies: 277
Views: 59575

Re: The Super Re-Read

Retrospectively, I'd argue that the unexplained presence of the Yardratian, Jimeze, in universe two is another case where some context was warranted, not only because Yardratians should be native to the sixth and seventh universes exclusively, but also because the species would become relevant for ...
by The Undying
Mon Dec 07, 2020 4:45 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: The Super Re-Read
Replies: 277
Views: 59575

Re: The Super Re-Read

Two very good chapters, but there's a grating nitpick I've had since 38's release that seems to grow stronger with each re-read. While I've always maintained that sidelining background characters is totally fine, and even encouraged in a battle royale setting like this so long as it's in service of ...
by The Undying
Fri Dec 04, 2020 10:37 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 42696
Views: 5666034

Re: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

First of all, it clearly borrows most of the colors from the anime, even though in my opinion Toyotaro and not even Toriyama would have ever gone with that approach. There's an amusing bit of irony here in that I don't even really see the anime going with this approach if it returns and adapts the ...