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by Hitiro
Thu Jan 12, 2012 2:59 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Power Level Multiplier Discussion
Replies: 60
Views: 6680

Re: Power Level Multiplier Discussion

We only have one instance of somebody only using "half of their power" in the part of the series that has BPs and said character was clearly telling the truth. I don't see why this would be any different. What I'm saying is just because it says "until now you haven't even been using half of your tr...
by Hitiro
Thu Jan 12, 2012 2:41 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Daizenshuu 7, Goku's SSJ PL
Replies: 67
Views: 5157

Re: Daizenshuu 7, Goku's SSJ PL

I don't think you should look at it that way. It's most likely the proportional difference that matters fx. when they first met Person A had BP 10, Person B had BP 20. 10 years later Person A has BP 100 and Person B has BP 200. In both cases Person B's BP is double that of Person A's, so despite th...
by Hitiro
Thu Jan 12, 2012 2:30 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Vegeta & Trunks, what the hell have you been doing...
Replies: 90
Views: 5128

Re: Vegeta & Trunks, what the hell have you been doing...

That is a silly assumption, how could they fail to achieve FPSSJ? There is nothing difficult about obtaining it. All you have to do is stand around for 3 or 4 months keeping up the SSJ transformation. In fact if Vegeta and Trunks were going to find another way then leaving SSJ on while they do such...
by Hitiro
Thu Jan 12, 2012 6:50 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: What happened to Buu and Babdi in Future Trunks timeline ?
Replies: 28
Views: 2435

Re: What happened to Buu and Babdi in Future Trunks timeline

Hundreds? Really? 999 people with an average powerlevel of 5 = 4,995. I don't think that would have been enough people. Even after absorbing all of Gohan's energy, which he was probably the third strongest person on the planet at the time, they only received half. And he was in SSJ2 at the time. Do...
by Hitiro
Thu Jan 12, 2012 6:44 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: I think I just Figured Majin Boo Out
Replies: 25
Views: 6725

Re: I think I just Figured Majin Boo Out

Personally I feel that Pure Evil Boo absorbed Innocent Boo to get back some of the power that was originally the Pure Boo's, this formed Evil Boo but Dai Kaioshin, who existed in Innocent Boo, was still weakening Evil Boo. After Innocent Boo was removed, Evil Boo, who had Innocent Boo inside him rec...
by Hitiro
Thu Jan 12, 2012 6:36 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: What happened to Buu and Babdi in Future Trunks timeline ?
Replies: 28
Views: 2435

Re: What happened to Buu and Babdi in Future Trunks timeline

Yes but as someone has mentioned Babidi plan was to have Spovovbitch and Yamu collect energy from normal humans. Even when Babidi injected the energy into Buu's ball they were surprised by the amount of energy collected and thought they had got it from millions of people. Hundreds of people, not mi...
by Hitiro
Thu Jan 12, 2012 6:28 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Vegeta & Trunks, what the hell have you been doing...
Replies: 90
Views: 5128

Re: Vegeta & Trunks, what the hell have you been doing...

Why didn't he try a different approach, especially since we find out through Trunks, that he even was aware of the faults of that form. He (and Trunks) apparently failed to find a better way to improve their ssj, it can be just as likely they failed to reach FPSSJ. That is a silly assumption, how c...
by Hitiro
Wed Jan 11, 2012 9:14 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: What happened to Buu and Babdi in Future Trunks timeline ?
Replies: 28
Views: 2435

Re: What happened to Buu and Babdi in Future Trunks timeline

I think it can happen easily after Trunks returns. Before that, there wouldn't be such a power as SSJ2 to resurrect Buu, so Babidi either gave up his dreams or it simply took him many years to find this power. When Trunks returns and the world is rebuilt, Babidi could still be nearby waiting and se...
by Hitiro
Wed Jan 11, 2012 9:00 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: What happened to Buu and Babdi in Future Trunks timeline ?
Replies: 28
Views: 2435

Re: What happened to Buu and Babdi in Future Trunks timeline

Okay so I was reading through the Dragonball Z timeline and I realized that Buu should have been awakened well before Future Trunks travels back in time. So what happened to Babdi and Buu did they not have enough energy to release Buu because of the androids killing all Z fighters or did they reali...
by Hitiro
Wed Jan 11, 2012 8:48 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Power Level Multiplier Discussion
Replies: 60
Views: 6680

Re: Power Level Multiplier Discussion

If Goku's battle power is 3,000,000 and he launches an attack, his battle power doesn't drop by the amount he fired, right? There are exceptions to this, certain techniques do result in a drop of battler power. If you refer back to when Nail's arm was ripped off and he regenerated Frieza was surpri...
by Hitiro
Wed Jan 11, 2012 7:58 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Vegeta & Trunks, what the hell have you been doing...
Replies: 90
Views: 5128

Re: Vegeta & Trunks, what the hell have you been doing...

No I'm not, it's what I understood from his statement. That if the author made it clear that the did achieve FPSSJ, they should have been given a bigger role in the Cell Games. But the fact is that he didn't. This was meant as a contra-argument to my oppinion that if Vegeta and Trunks were FPSSJ it...
by Hitiro
Wed Jan 11, 2012 6:12 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Vegeta & Trunks, what the hell have you been doing...
Replies: 90
Views: 5128

Re: Vegeta & Trunks, what the hell have you been doing...

No, since they were never meant to be the ones to defeat Cell so fssj or not, so even if they did manage to reach FPSSJ, they still would have been made weaker than Goku and Gohan. The whole point of that part was to show how much more powerfull Goku and Gohan had become. What I meant is if anythin...
by Hitiro
Wed Jan 11, 2012 4:57 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Vegeta & Trunks, what the hell have you been doing...
Replies: 90
Views: 5128

Re: Vegeta & Trunks, what the hell have you been doing...

Just because they are in base form doesn't mean that they can't handle SSJ like Goku and Gohan. It is because Goku had the epiphany to master the SSJ form later on in the ROSAT that they were still SSJ when they came out. If Vegeta and Trunks went in there with the full intention of obtaining maste...
by Hitiro
Wed Jan 11, 2012 4:02 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Vegeta & Trunks, what the hell have you been doing...
Replies: 90
Views: 5128

Re: Vegeta & Trunks, what the hell have you been doing...

I was using a formula to demonstrate what I meant really, as for the achievement I doubt it would have been noted because it would have been overshadowed by the whole "Gohan is going to be the saviour of the world" thing. It would be really stupid of Vegeta or Trunks not to achieve FPSSJ while they...
by Hitiro
Wed Jan 11, 2012 2:58 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Vegeta & Trunks, what the hell have you been doing...
Replies: 90
Views: 5128

Re: Vegeta & Trunks, what the hell have you been doing...

Where is your proof of this The manga. I think this achievement would have been noted since it was a pretty big deal when they showed it with Goku and Gohan. And I don't really believe in formulas when it comes to DB.... I was using a formula to demonstrate what I meant really, as for the achieveme...
by Hitiro
Wed Jan 11, 2012 2:13 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Vegeta & Trunks, what the hell have you been doing...
Replies: 90
Views: 5128

Re: Vegeta & Trunks, what the hell have you been doing...

No, FPSSJ is basically a SSJ who has stayed in the SSJ form for so long they are used to that negative feeling you get from sustaining the transformation Basically that would mean that Goku's decision to find a way to effectively combine both speed and strength and to be able to master the SSJ form...
by Hitiro
Wed Jan 11, 2012 11:17 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Power Level Multiplier Discussion
Replies: 60
Views: 6680

Re: Power Level Multiplier Discussion

Not to mention that "not even half" just means... well, less than half. It doesn't mean "exactly 40%," and a generic statement like that doesn't automatically translate to, " this is stated as " anything. Goku's base power could be 30%, 49%, or hey, even 2% of his Super Saiyan power. Not that GT ma...
by Hitiro
Wed Jan 11, 2012 10:24 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Power Level Multiplier Discussion
Replies: 60
Views: 6680

Re: Power Level Multiplier Discussion

When is that stated? In the perfect files? He's talking about when Goku transforms against Rild, who then says something like, "until now you haven't even been using half of your true power." Though that doesn't necessarily mean that if Goku was using twice as much more power than he was currently ...
by Hitiro
Wed Jan 11, 2012 7:29 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Power Level Multiplier Discussion
Replies: 60
Views: 6680

Re: Power Level Multiplier Discussion

But Vegeta was also sent to Earth when he was dead, so he wouldn't have the infinite energy that Goku has in other world. But Vegeta went to the Supreme Kai's planet which we know can be accessed by the dead so his power would have returned. Doesn't matter now though, Devils has brought it to my at...
by Hitiro
Wed Jan 11, 2012 7:06 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Power Level Multiplier Discussion
Replies: 60
Views: 6680

Re: Power Level Multiplier Discussion

But aren't beings who are dead have an infinite amount of energy? Goku makes it pretty obvious that the power consumption of SSJ3 isn't a problem when he's dead because he's dead but returning to life means the energy consumption would hurt his energy supply. Goku is exhausted by SS3, which is why ...