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by Hitiro
Mon Jan 09, 2012 5:04 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Daizenshuu 7, Goku's SSJ PL
Replies: 67
Views: 5161

Re: Daizenshuu 7, Goku's SSJ PL

The best way I can think of to explain it is the same way Bussani put it. That when Vegeta "surfaced his Ki," it made the full scope of his power more obvious to Goku, a natural Ki-senser, as opposed to a scouter which would read 18,000 for him the whole time. But that's like saying a scouter is mo...
by Hitiro
Mon Jan 09, 2012 4:59 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: The fate of the frog
Replies: 35
Views: 1922

Re: The fate of the frog

Animals would be refereed rather as a "everything". We don't see the Earth over-flooded by alien animals. We don't see the animals but that doesn't mean they weren't transported. We don't see all the Namekians in the panels of them on earth. That doesn't mean that those Namekians weren't transporte...
by Hitiro
Mon Jan 09, 2012 4:45 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: The fate of the frog
Replies: 35
Views: 1922

Re: The fate of the frog

Correct me if I'm wrong but wasn't the wish to "Transport everyone except Goku and Frieza from Namek to Earth." Last time I checked animals have a consciousness and are technically people themselves. The word everyone does not apply to only Humans and Nameks but anything within the context it was us...
by Hitiro
Mon Jan 09, 2012 4:36 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Daizenshuu 7, Goku's SSJ PL
Replies: 67
Views: 5161

Re: Daizenshuu 7, Goku's SSJ PL

I personally feel that Vegeta's powerlevel went up to 18,000 as that was his maximum output. It seems silly to me that he would say that to Goku if he was already using 100% but just toying around with him. I don't think a character would have any reason for unleashing their energy like that unless ...
by Hitiro
Mon Jan 09, 2012 3:00 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Daizenshuu 7, Goku's SSJ PL
Replies: 67
Views: 5161

Re: Daizenshuu 7, Goku's SSJ PL

But if we go back to when Goku is fighting Vegeta though we can clearly see that he's fighting on par with Vegeta with his Kaioken, then Vegeta unleashes his power and all of a sudden Goku is at a major disadvantage, not even able to keep up with Kaioken x2. Vegeta was toying with Goku until he use...
by Hitiro
Mon Jan 09, 2012 6:15 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Daizenshuu 7, Goku's SSJ PL
Replies: 67
Views: 5161

Re: Daizenshuu 7, Goku's SSJ PL

But if we go back to when Goku is fighting Vegeta though we can clearly see that he's fighting on par with Vegeta with his Kaioken, then Vegeta unleashes his power and all of a sudden Goku is at a major disadvantage, not even able to keep up with Kaioken x2. This leads me to believe that characters...
by Hitiro
Mon Jan 09, 2012 6:05 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Transforming into Oozarus in space
Replies: 6
Views: 679

Re: Transforming into Oozarus in space

There was a question that came to me not too long ago. It was common practice for Saiyans to travel to other planets via those little spherical space pods in order to conquer. But, what would have happened if that pod were passing by a moon, and a Saiyan with a tail just happened to glance out that...
by Hitiro
Sun Jan 08, 2012 11:35 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Daizenshuu 7, Goku's SSJ PL
Replies: 67
Views: 5161

Re: Daizenshuu 7, Goku's SSJ PL

But even if Nappa and Vegeta released their energy Piccolo shouldn't be any more shocked at their power than before. Piccolo clearly says "I never thought it would be this much!" implying that he didn't know how much power Nappa had. If their battle powers always stayed the same and never changed I...
by Hitiro
Sun Jan 08, 2012 10:51 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: How did Grandpa Gohan know Goku could transform?
Replies: 48
Views: 4150

Re: How did Grandpa Gohan know Goku could transform?

Why would superhuman strength have to be explained by him being an alien? We're talking about the Dragon Ball world. Son Gohan himself had superhuman strength and had been trained by Kame-sennin! Most of the things listed here are completely explainable in the fictional universe. I'd say the bigges...
by Hitiro
Sun Jan 08, 2012 10:32 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Power Level Multiplier Discussion
Replies: 60
Views: 6692

Re: Power Level Multiplier Discussion

Also I think the formula for each level multiplier for SSJ would be something like BP = B * (C * F-O^F) Where B = Base, C = original SSJ multiplier which is 50, O = distance from original SSJ form(Note: I feel that all the forms above SSJ are 1 step away from the original SSJ form purely because I ...
by Hitiro
Sun Jan 08, 2012 2:31 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Daizenshuu 7, Goku's SSJ PL
Replies: 67
Views: 5161

Re: Daizenshuu 7, Goku's SSJ PL

Well, Roshi commented how fantastic Tenshinhan ki was when he was powering-up the Kikoho, he even described it as focusing the ki into the hands, which later Raditz is surprised about. But I don't think Raditz was surprised that somebody could do that, rather, he was surprised that a planet with th...
by Hitiro
Sun Jan 08, 2012 11:29 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Power Level Multiplier Discussion
Replies: 60
Views: 6692

Re: Power Level Multiplier Discussion

If anything the only variations on SSJ which boost the SSJ's multiplier are the graded forms or USSJ form. We all know that using those variations boost the users battle power but the cost of that is speed and the form becomes much more greedy on energy. Also I think the formula for each level multi...
by Hitiro
Sun Jan 08, 2012 10:28 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Daizenshuu 7, Goku's SSJ PL
Replies: 67
Views: 5161

Re: Daizenshuu 7, Goku's SSJ PL

I mentioned that it could have been like adrenaline as well, although as Hitiro pointed out, it's not necessary if you're willing to take the Daizenshuu number as Goku's max rather than what he actually had at the time. But anyway, ki is a mental/spiritual power, and mental focus, emotions, willpow...
by Hitiro
Sun Jan 08, 2012 9:24 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Daizenshuu 7, Goku's SSJ PL
Replies: 67
Views: 5161

Re: Daizenshuu 7, Goku's SSJ PL

Well, surely not. The manga is quite clear that Vegeta and the others can't change what battle power the Scouter will give at all. Here are some examples: Vegeta: “It’s truly an unthinkable figure for the old Kakarot. What’s more, the people here are able to alter their figures …So 5,000 could just...
by Hitiro
Sat Jan 07, 2012 10:16 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Daizenshuu 7, Goku's SSJ PL
Replies: 67
Views: 5161

Re: Daizenshuu 7, Goku's SSJ PL

After Goku fires a full power Kamehameha and nukes the top portion of Cell to bits, Cell implies that Goku's ki also fell from using such an attack. (...) Goku's ki is also said to fall after firing a Kaioken x20 Kamehameha, but given that high-level Kaiokens seem to destroy his body, I guess we ca...
by Hitiro
Sat Jan 07, 2012 10:04 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Daizenshuu 7, Goku's SSJ PL
Replies: 67
Views: 5161

Re: Daizenshuu 7, Goku's SSJ PL

After Goku fires a full power Kamehameha and nukes the top portion of Cell to bits, Cell implies that Goku's ki also fell from using such an attack. Chapter: 401 (DBZ 207), P12.1 Context: after Cell regenerates Goku: “…But even your ki fell quite a bit from that.” Cell: “Hmph, that goes for you too...
by Hitiro
Sat Jan 07, 2012 5:45 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Theories of Cell's nucleus Guide!
Replies: 36
Views: 3151

Re: Theories of Cell's nucleus Guide!

Another thing about this whole nucleus thing, does it actually specifically say which nucleus he uses to regenerate from in the Japanese version of the manga? Because every cell in our bodies have a nucleus and they all contain a code to, for instance, divide and multiply. In this instance if Cell w...
by Hitiro
Sat Jan 07, 2012 5:31 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Daizenshuu 7, Goku's SSJ PL
Replies: 67
Views: 5161

Re: Daizenshuu 7, Goku's SSJ PL

Well, Gohan can control his Ki, so it's a different case than Vegeta. It kinds of confuses me why the battle power of someone who can control his Ki would drop during the course of a fight while someone who don't have his battle power almost like a signature or fingerprint. I mean, Jheese says that...
by Hitiro
Sat Jan 07, 2012 2:31 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Daizenshuu 7, Goku's SSJ PL
Replies: 67
Views: 5161

Re: Daizenshuu 7, Goku's SSJ PL

The first time Freeza attacked with 100% of his power Goku said he was disappointed at him. While Freeza managed to push Goku away so he could make his wish to Porunga, after that everything Freeza tried failed and Goku gave up on him. Both Goku and Freeza were exchanging blows in the Manga also. N...
by Hitiro
Sat Jan 07, 2012 11:30 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Daizenshuu 7, Goku's SSJ PL
Replies: 67
Views: 5161

Re: Daizenshuu 7, Goku's SSJ PL

I could be wrong but I think in either the Super Exciting Guide and/or one of the daizenshuus it is stated that the SS1 multiplier is 50x (SS2 is 2 times SS1, and SS3 is 4 times SS2). I'm not sure if the 150,000,000 power level rating is based on that being his max or what it was when he was hurt. ...