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by Lionel
Thu Jun 22, 2023 5:12 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Would Goku have turned SSJ if Gohan was killed?
Replies: 10
Views: 2092

Re: Would Goku have turned SSJ if Gohan was killed?

Yeah, Gohan was never resurrected by the Dragon Balls at that point so Goku would have likely felt assured in the prospect of bringing him back. It would no doubt infuriate him to see his son murdered in such a brutal manner but to the point of losing control and turning Super Saiyan? Probably not. ...
by Lionel
Mon Jun 19, 2023 5:54 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: So was Piccolo planning on killing Frost and taking the disqualification?
Replies: 7
Views: 1688

Re: So was Piccolo planning on killing Frost and taking the disqualification?

Considering how it bores into a target, effectively tunnelling through their organs and muscles, it's hard to imagine how Frost wouldn't have come out of the attack without suffering mortal injuries. To be fair Piccolo would have needed to perforate his own limb that he was using as bindings to get ...
by Lionel
Thu Jun 15, 2023 6:04 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Does Freeza believe he can take Beerus now?
Replies: 6
Views: 1363

Re: Does Freeza believe he can take Beerus now?

I don't believe he does for the simple reason that he's aware of the strides Goku and Vegeta have been making in their own progress as fighters but they still defer to Beerus as though he were their superior. It's possible Freeza might feel more confident in his prospects for some day challenging Be...
by Lionel
Thu Jun 15, 2023 5:59 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: How strong is Base Vegetto (Manga)?
Replies: 51
Views: 8765

Re: How strong is Base Vegetto (Manga)?

I would estimate Vegetto in base to be stronger than SSJ3 Goku but weaker than SSJ3 Gotenks, probably leaning closer to Gotenks in his own untransformed state after training whom I do have as being above Goku. A Kaioken amplification could probably allow him to take Super Saiyan Gotenks, I feel.
by Lionel
Mon May 08, 2023 6:00 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Would 17's wish restore Zamasu's faith in mortals?
Replies: 17
Views: 2554

Re: Would 17's wish restore Zamasu's faith in mortals?

So many good explanations here and I have to agree. #17's wish wouldn't do anything to placate Zamasu's megalomania or concerns about the nature of ningen. Moreover it isn't simply taking issue with the inherently violent nature of ningen. Zamasu deems it an affront to the gods that any 'lowly' bein...
by Lionel
Fri Mar 24, 2023 9:49 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Which villain does Goku respect the most?
Replies: 5
Views: 739

Re: Which villain does Goku respect the most?

Others provided good suggestions. An unreformed villain who went down with their proverbial ship has a good number of examples here. From Goku's perspective someone who he can respect while they maintain their moral depravity usually has to do with their combat ability and integrity as a fighter. I ...
by Lionel
Fri Mar 17, 2023 11:34 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Worst decisions ever made
Replies: 22
Views: 2283

Re: Worst decisions ever made

So many developments to consider. The ones which immediately come to mind stem a great deal from Super. I look to the example of the Potara Earrings only having the quality of permanence on the condition of those intended fusees being Kaioshin. Another would be the ease at which Freeza progressed in...
by Lionel
Fri Mar 17, 2023 11:23 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Which villain does Goku hate the most?
Replies: 13
Views: 1328

Re: Which villain does Goku hate the most?

It's hard to break through the guise of a simple, fun loving protector of the world who tries to give his opponents a chance to walk away. The occasions where someone has genuinely gotten under his skin and infuriated him to the point of despising them are few -- Tambourine, Piccolo Daimou, Freeza, ...
by Lionel
Mon Mar 06, 2023 1:06 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Why Gohan could never defeat the Androids
Replies: 15
Views: 2132

Re: Why Gohan could never defeat the Androids

Interesting and valid points made. You elaborate on the specific components of ki that have to do with mentality and comprehension of a plateau that exists beyond what is current believed to be achievable. Goku following Yardrat and perhaps however long he had to train afterwards before the virus cl...
by Lionel
Tue Feb 14, 2023 6:39 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: I always felt weird that Sergeant Metallic was in a commanding position...
Replies: 5
Views: 745

Re: I always felt weird that Sergeant Metallic was in a commanding position...

It's hard to say as while Metallic did seem to have the reasoning capabilities and respect for command structure to guard a floor of the tower, we see very little of his interaction with others from his faction. The only artificial beings that had any kind of command post or function was #20 and he ...
by Lionel
Tue Feb 14, 2023 6:24 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: How close are the humans to Ultra Instinct?
Replies: 8
Views: 733

Re: How close are the humans to Ultra Instinct?

Three out of the four core original human fighters (Krillin, Tenshinhan, Yamcha, and Chaozu) did undergo the training regimens and presumably grasped the tenets of three of the divine teachers Goku studied under (Karin, Kami, and King Kai). In fact some of them trained longer under King Kai than Gok...
by Lionel
Tue Feb 14, 2023 6:16 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Now that Piccolo is a real contender again, why do you think he chose to skip on the 28th Tenkaichi Budokai?
Replies: 23
Views: 1929

Re: Now that Piccolo is a real contender again, why do you think he chose to skip on the 28th Tenkaichi Budokai?

Well Piccolo didn't have the same fierce competitive drive that was galvanising him to test his mettle against others through the Saiyan to Cell arcs. Many speculate that it might have something to do with the influence Kami had on him. In the last arc of Z and throughout the early portions of Super...
by Lionel
Tue Feb 14, 2023 6:08 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: How do Freeza Force soldiers learn to fly?
Replies: 8
Views: 820

Re: How do Freeza Force soldiers learn to fly?

Others offered some good explanations. Freeza's legions probably have a wordly, more scientific understanding of the concept of 'ki' that they were able to analyse and set about using for practical matters in their line of business such as weapons and flight. The more refined aspects of ki harnessin...
by Lionel
Tue Feb 14, 2023 6:01 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Logical reasoning for Piccolo and Gohan hitting a wall and not advancing with their training.
Replies: 16
Views: 1948

Re: Logical reasoning for Piccolo and Gohan hitting a wall and not advancing with their training.

Over a year and a half since this topic was active. Yeah, I have watched Super Hero myself but it certainly lends some important developments to consider for Gohan and, perhaps more interestingly, Piccolo. Mindset is always going to be important when it comes to the further progression of strength a...
by Lionel
Fri Dec 30, 2022 3:46 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: So why Shenron gave Piccolo a bonus transformation?
Replies: 21
Views: 2720

Re: So why Shenron gave Piccolo a bonus transformation?

The dragons offering unstipulated additions to a wish isn't unheard of. Remember when Porunga reassembled Krillin's body and clothing at the time of his death on Namek? Bulma's wish only stated the intention of resurrecting Krillin. The dragon himself clarified that he provided these additional serv...
by Lionel
Sun Dec 18, 2022 3:04 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Could Picoclo have defeated all Z enemies if he had his potential unlocked
Replies: 3
Views: 542

Re: Could Picoclo have defeated all Z enemies if he had his potential unlocked

Difficult to say. All of the Saiyans and Piccolo were training assiduously for years in preparation for the cyborgs. I have to image Piccolo was already hitting his stride through labouring with Goku and benefiting from the strength of a Super Saiyan as a consequence of their collaboration. It's qui...
by Lionel
Sat Dec 17, 2022 2:58 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Does Piccolo have the second highest potential next to Gohan?
Replies: 8
Views: 1005

Re: Does Piccolo have the second highest potential next to Gohan?

My own interpretation of a fighter's strength is that it's one part mindset and what it is they've been exposed to that can prompt them into comprehending a new realm of strength. Piccolo was operating from a position of near parity with the strongest being on the planet during the 23rd tournament. ...
by Lionel
Sun Nov 20, 2022 1:28 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Related to was Gohan ssj2 vs Dabura?
Replies: 22
Views: 2677

Re: Related to was Gohan ssj2 vs Dabura?

The big thing here for me is Majin Vegeta, right when he gets possessed in the ship. You can't read those chapters and tell me he's weaker than Gohan. Was he already a SSJ2 there? If so what's his power up with Goku supposed to be? I think Vegeta before his possession and the subsequent potential u...
by Lionel
Sat Nov 19, 2022 5:25 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Related to was Gohan ssj2 vs Dabura?
Replies: 22
Views: 2677

Re: Related to was Gohan ssj2 vs Dabura?

Do we know for certain if Goku couldn't sense Cell's strength following his return? Keep in mind that Goku expressly went to King Kai's planet so that he could gain a better directional scope of where to find the Namekians on their new planet. I don't see why the same couldn't be done for a planet a...
by Lionel
Sat Nov 19, 2022 5:11 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Instances of Power Creep in Dragon Ball
Replies: 3
Views: 796

Re: Instances of Power Creep in Dragon Ball

Power levels are constantly in flux shifting upward for everyone relevant that's participating. Dragon Ball's mechanics operate like that. It isn't exactly a multifarious system that allows for variety in how one confronts an antagonist. You're either strong enough to defeat them or you're not. If y...