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Where would you guys put a hypothetical anime Moro?

How would he fare against shirtless Jiren and a nakama/rage boosted MUI Goku?

You don't got much to stand on if you're still holding onto something from 7 years ago. 7 years ago SSG was stronger than any fusion. Now it's fodder

Toriyama probably doesn't even remember the oracle fish lol

What exactly was so impressive about Saganbo anyway? People keep using him to wank Goku to insane levels. He beat Gohan and 17. So what? Both of them are not impressive. Gohan stalemated a nerfed fusion, was stated as being weaker than Goku in the ToP and 17 is even weaker than him. Contrary to som...

What exactly was so impressive about Saganbo anyway? People keep using him to wank Goku to insane levels.

He beat Gohan and 17. So what? Both of them are not impressive. Gohan stalemated a nerfed fusion, was stated as being weaker than Goku in the ToP and 17 is even weaker than him.

How current Omen compares to previous UI is irrelevant tbh

We just got our first legit hint of where Moro stands. He's implied to be absurdly more powerful than Broly, Beerus and Jiren

In that very same fight against Jiren, a banged up base Vegeta was fast enough to see, react and dodge an attack intended for MUI Goku.. Potara/fusion being useless against Moro is the first hint of his standing. The implication is current Gogeta/Vegetto can't beat him which means Beerus and Broly a...

> Spirit fission only works when damage is dealt
> Potara/Dance is useless

Moro73 > current Gogeta/Vegetto?

Grand Marshal 1 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 19, 2020 4:18 am

Nevaeh wrote: ↑Fri Jun 19, 2020 2:50 am Imagine if Goku or Vegeta say Moro73 is the strongest they've faced? I got my popcorn ready

Lmao Jiren/GoD comparison incoming?

A statement like that affects Broly and a certain anorexic cat too. It's going to be fun

Imagine if Goku or Vegeta say Moro73 is the strongest they've faced? I got my popcorn ready

Do you guys think that current UI Omen > ToP Mastered UI? Because even though Goku trained a lot since the Tournament, I still think that'd be a stretch to say, given how much of a "Miracle" this form is, and that the Angels were looking forward to see it in the latest chapter. Unless dir...

Hit took the same shots SSBKK Goku did (dialogue states this) and handled them a lot better.

If Freeza got tagged with the same chest shot Jiren did, his chest would've exploded

https://twitter.com/Cipher_db/status/1263776910934290432 https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EYnVyMLU4AA0KfV?format=png&name=900x900 A rundown of the God forms. What's interesting is the fact that it mentions Vegito rivals Beerus. Kaioshin questioned if Vegito was superior, but this gives us a more sol...

After seeing how outmatched Ultra Instinct Goku was against Moro, it made me think about how Moro compares to the Gods of Destruction. When Super Saiyan God Goku was clashing with Toppo, Arak said the battle was already at the level of the Gods. Now Goku is way more powerful than he was in the exhi...

After lolstomping the likes of SSJ3 Goku, Ultimate Gohan, Gotenks etc 2 arcs prior, Beerus thought SSJ2 Trunks was impressive. Also, SSJ2 Goku was so strong Gowasu thought he rivaled a hakaishin and Trunks was equal to him

Anime Trunks was on another level

I dunno, Piccolo just said it's hard to tell. But after all that training, he MUST have gotten stronger. Heck, his blue form was stated to be "way stronger than last time I saw it". Maybe the gains from said training don't apply to Omen/UI because it's technically a technique and not a ge...

As of now, I'm not certain. Moro could be boasting, after all, but we'll see in later chapters (although him being able to fight UIO Goku like that is a veeeeery compelling argument). I'm personally of the opinion that manga!Goku could now very well defeat Jiren in his completed UI state, but I won...

So looking back at the ToP, can we safely say that Gohan and Kefla were not SSB level?

Manga Kefla was/is so weird. Reading the dialogue makes it seem like Kefla isn't stronger than Kale. In terms of fusions, she's the biggest outlier. Even Kibito Kai was stronger than Shin.

Ultra Instinct Omen Goku’s air punches didn’t even FAZE Moro! And there were many of them. It’s like it barely tickled him, though it did annoy him. Is anyone still in doubt that Moro is superior to both Jiren and Broly now??? Do we know how manga UI stacks up in comparison to Broly/Beerus? Anime s...

Speaking of UI. Where does it stack up in the manga?

In the anime it was stated to be a realm of power the hakaishin can't reach. Although since said statement came from Shueisha it should apply to the manga as well should it not?

why is this debate still a thing? Jiren was specifically stated to be above belmod. Actually: https://i.imgur.com/1ygLBc0.jpg "The strongest man in Universe 11, said to have power that exceeds even the Gods of Destruction." So even in the manga Jiren is stronger than all the GoDs and not ...