Also, Mechikaboola is getting ugiler and uglier imho. His original young form already looked better that his Darkness one, but this Dark-hole thing... He doesn't even look threating anymore. He just looks silly. Trough I'm still very curious as to who will finally defeat him and, more importantly, what will they come up with next.
Correct me if I'm wrong but he has been the villain for the entirety of the "Super" section of the game, right? I assume that the new Big Bang stuff will have a new villain, but it just feels kinda weird imagining the Xenos fighting something else at this point.
Either way, I'm really curious about the dialogue between Fin and Miira at the end, and what will happen in UM12 regarding the Conflict part. I don't see Gogeta losing after the hype he got, but I guess they can always go the lame route and haveI him defuse or something.
Kenneth La Torre wrote: ↑
Tue Oct 22, 2019 10:52 pm
MisteryOne wrote: ↑
Tue Oct 22, 2019 6:48 pm
Kenneth La Torre wrote: ↑
Tue Oct 22, 2019 5:04 pm
it would ruin anything because fusion in the game was never beat. only the anime ruined it. if gogeta beats hearts it will be ok by game standards, only the anime suffers from that.
That is not the issue, tho? The point is that vanilla Blue Gogeta can't be that strong, specially if you consider Hearts at the very least should get a similar power boost to the one Kamioren got, which was pretty insane. And before absorbing the Universal Seed, Super Hearts was strong enough to face Goku, Jiren and Hit (while Cumbe faced Cooler).
Now consider that Jiren fought Meged Zamasu, SS3 Full Power Cumber and normal Hearts just by himself. That alone means Super Hearts is way stonger than his normal self. (Also worth nothing that Zamasu in the game was strong enough to face Hakaishin Toppo and Dyspo).
Blue Vegetto didn't lose against Cumber, but he didn't win either as Cumber himself pointed out. Fuu interrumped that battle. And that was only SS1 Cumber. UI Goku fought SS3 Cumber which would imply that UI> Blue Fusion as well, unless now we need to take in mind some type of overcomplicated Blue Dance>UI> Blue Potara thing...
Gogeta just can't win alone considering how insanely powerful Godslayer Hearts should be. Again, not with normal Blue at the very least. If he uses another form, it would not be an issue.
To sum it up: it isn't just a minor inconsistence, it would go against almost all of the previous battles regarding Hearts and Goku themselves.
you are putting logic into power scalinvg when there is none. UI has never been Objectively beyond fusion, its just that that is how it was made for a certain mission. look at ssj4 xeno vegito, fighting ssj3 cumber despite ssj4 xeno goku losing to ssb goku.
like the comments above, there is no set in stone power scaling. it will always change
Lmao I love how at first you were trying to put logic on it yourself and once you got it would not work you retracted. It just shows how fucked up this Gogeta Blue thing is.
It isn't just that UI is beyond Fusion or not. Reread my comment again and you would say there is a whole lot of issues if Gogeta Blue defeats Hearts. Cumber, Jiren, and many others powerlevels and showings will not make sense suddenly. Hearts was a monster even before going Ultimate.
Xeno Vegetto facing SS3 Cumber is a little inconsistence compared to how badly Blue Gogeta defeating Ultimate Hearts would be (not o mention, it DOES make sense since they were fighting SS1 Cumber while the Blues could not keep up with his Base form). That was my entire point. It isn't as simple as UI being stronger than Fusion or not.
Also, I love how you just randomly decided that there is not set power scaling when there is (was) one clearly. The only issue arcade-wise is that the Xenos are suddenly massively stronger than the Blues upon their return...and you can even make up some easy excuses for that since we don't know what they were doing. You can't make excuses for Gogeta, however.
To sum it up, let's not pretent that the arcade was a mess in logic like the anime because it wasn't. I can perfectly use logic because until now, there was. That whole "it will always change" and "there is nothing set" is objetively and completely false until, again, now with Gogeta.
I get that this is Heroes and is pure fanservice at the end of the day, but I just don't get why you guys are getting defensive with Gogeta.
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