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Post by Rakurai » Wed Dec 04, 2019 10:55 pm

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The design is virtually the same, but I like SS4 Bardock Xeno much more than regular SS4 Bardock
I mean, the only different thing about the Xenos in terms of appearance is the clothes. And since XBardock's spandex doesn't change, his SS4 appearance wouldn't change either.
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Post by Dark_Tzitzimine » Thu Dec 05, 2019 2:40 am

Yeah, is mostly just a change in clothes, but Xeno Bardock having an actual headband ala Ryu and not having his tail wrapped around his waist makes for a more interesting appearance.

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Post by Gohan123 » Fri Dec 06, 2019 1:57 am

https://youtu.be/f1H2jhNTbPA

According to SDBH world mission Xeno Goku and Xeno Vegeta is from same timeline.

Since Xeno Goku and Xeno Vegeta before joined time patrol their clothes still from DBZ era maybe they from game verse such like DBZ Tenkaichi 2 or DBZ Budokai 3.

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Post by Grimlock » Fri Dec 06, 2019 2:19 am

Gohan123 wrote:
Fri Dec 06, 2019 1:57 am
According to SDBH world mission Xeno Goku and Xeno Vegeta is from same timeline.
Old news. All Time Patrollers are.
Gohan123 wrote:
Fri Dec 06, 2019 1:57 am
Since Xeno Goku and Xeno Vegeta before joined time patrol their clothes still from DBZ era.
But this is... what!? :crazy: So Vegeta deliberately chose to wear a Time Breaker armor in that game!? Why would Kaioshin of Time give him that outfit?

Anyway, whatever happens outside the arcade, stays outside the arcade. Ultimate Mission and World Mission bear no consequence/influence over the arcade. In other words, different continuities. You may want to check GDM9 to know more details on how Xeno Vegeta got that armor (which goes without saying it contradicts World Mission, as one would expect).

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Post by Draconic » Fri Dec 06, 2019 2:38 am

Grimlock wrote:
Fri Dec 06, 2019 2:19 am
Gohan123 wrote:
Fri Dec 06, 2019 1:57 am
According to SDBH world mission Xeno Goku and Xeno Vegeta is from same timeline.
Old news. All Time Patrollers are.
Gohan123 wrote:
Fri Dec 06, 2019 1:57 am
Since Xeno Goku and Xeno Vegeta before joined time patrol their clothes still from DBZ era.
But this is... what!? :crazy: So Vegeta deliberately chose to wear a Time Breaker armor in that game!? Why would Kaioshin of Time give him that outfit?

Anyway, whatever happens outside the arcade, stays outside the arcade. Ultimate Mission and World Mission bear no consequence/influence over the arcade. In other words, different continuities. You may want to check GDM9 to know more details on how Xeno Vegeta got that armor (which goes without saying it contradicts World Mission, as one would expect).
Didn't Vegeta get mind controlled with a mask by... Towa I guess, might have been Demigra. Isn't Xeno Vegeta the same Vegeta as Black Masked Saiyan? If him and Xeno Goku are from the same timeline, it just means they got mixed up in the Time Patroll/Time Breaker sheningans in different ways.
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Post by Grimlock » Fri Dec 06, 2019 10:56 am

Yeah, you're right. They got involved in different ways, which is why we can't take all these different ways to work jointly.

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Post by Dark_Tzitzimine » Fri Dec 06, 2019 12:38 pm

IIRC, in both the game and the manga the Xeno versions remember/acknowledge events from GT (they do in WM as well) so if anything, is more likely that they come from a timeline very similar to GT.

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Post by S3 Hendrix » Fri Dec 06, 2019 1:31 pm

Grimlock wrote:
Fri Dec 06, 2019 2:19 am
Gohan123 wrote:
Fri Dec 06, 2019 1:57 am
According to SDBH world mission Xeno Goku and Xeno Vegeta is from same timeline.
Old news. All Time Patrollers are.
Gohan123 wrote:
Fri Dec 06, 2019 1:57 am
Since Xeno Goku and Xeno Vegeta before joined time patrol their clothes still from DBZ era.
But this is... what!? :crazy: So Vegeta deliberately chose to wear a Time Breaker armor in that game!? Why would Kaioshin of Time give him that outfit?

Anyway, whatever happens outside the arcade, stays outside the arcade. Ultimate Mission and World Mission bear no consequence/influence over the arcade. In other words, different continuities. You may want to check GDM9 to know more details on how Xeno Vegeta got that armor (which goes without saying it contradicts World Mission, as one would expect).

All time patrollers are not from the same timeline lol, Trunks xeno is future trunks right after defeating Cell in his own timeline, Pan xeno is GT Pan right after her own timeline was mostlikely destroyed by mechikabura, goten Xeno, Vegeta xeno, Goku Xeno And Gohan xeno all come from unknown timelines, and bardock xeno(the one on the time patrol is the same one who became masked saiyan) is from a timeline where he goes through a mix of the DBminus/BTFOG stories.

Also in the arcade game Vegeta xeno obviously got his armor from supreme Kai of time because he doesn’t become black masked saiyan until after he fights Mira for the first time and states it’s the same guy who turned bardock(or as Vegeta calls him: kakarot’s father) into the masked saiyan and gave bardock crazy powers with the mask. So in the arcade game Vegeta xeno was already apart of the time patrol before he became black masked saiyan and he’s wearing what you call “time breaker armor” .

https://youtu.be/_w2oZAQSkkU (pre mask Vegeta)



https://youtu.be/yUlWPytRSOE (After letting Mira turn himself(Vegeta) into black masked saiyan)

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Post by Gohan123 » Sat Dec 07, 2019 1:50 am

https://mangarock.com/manga/mrs-serie-100275506

Can someone explain to me why Xeno Character in Dark Realm Manga really weaker and always use fusion to fight against Xeno Slug , Reaper , Xeno Buu , Xeno Cell ?

In the Dark Realm game version Xeno Goku fight against Xeno Turles and transform into SSJ4 to fight against Broly and Mira. Xeno Vegeta fight his father and Xeno Trunks fight against Cell X , Xeno Frieza , Xeno Slug .

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Post by theshinobi » Sat Dec 07, 2019 8:31 am

Gohan123 wrote:
Sat Dec 07, 2019 1:50 am
https://mangarock.com/manga/mrs-serie-100275506

Can someone explain to me why Xeno Character in Dark Realm Manga really weaker and always use fusion to fight against Xeno Slug , Reaper , Xeno Buu , Xeno Cell ?

In the Dark Realm game version Xeno Goku fight against Xeno Turles and transform into SSJ4 to fight against Broly and Mira. Xeno Vegeta fight his father and Xeno Trunks fight against Cell X , Xeno Frieza , Xeno Slug .
Because Supreme Oppai Of The Time forbidden them to transform since it could twist more from the already altered timeline, thats why Xeno Goku and Xeno Vegeta only turn outs SSJ4 when they are already on the Dark Realm.

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Post by Gohan123 » Sat Dec 07, 2019 9:32 am

theshinobi wrote:
Sat Dec 07, 2019 8:31 am
Gohan123 wrote:
Sat Dec 07, 2019 1:50 am
https://mangarock.com/manga/mrs-serie-100275506

Can someone explain to me why Xeno Character in Dark Realm Manga really weaker and always use fusion to fight against Xeno Slug , Reaper , Xeno Buu , Xeno Cell ?

In the Dark Realm game version Xeno Goku fight against Xeno Turles and transform into SSJ4 to fight against Broly and Mira. Xeno Vegeta fight his father and Xeno Trunks fight against Cell X , Xeno Frieza , Xeno Slug .
Because Supreme Oppai Of The Time forbidden them to transform since it could twist more from the already altered timeline, thats why Xeno Goku and Xeno Vegeta only turn outs SSJ4 when they are already on the Dark Realm.
Is game also confirmed SSJ4 can altered timeline.

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Post by S3 Hendrix » Sat Dec 07, 2019 4:05 pm

Gohan123 wrote:
Sat Dec 07, 2019 9:32 am
theshinobi wrote:
Sat Dec 07, 2019 8:31 am
Gohan123 wrote:
Sat Dec 07, 2019 1:50 am
https://mangarock.com/manga/mrs-serie-100275506

Can someone explain to me why Xeno Character in Dark Realm Manga really weaker and always use fusion to fight against Xeno Slug , Reaper , Xeno Buu , Xeno Cell ?

In the Dark Realm game version Xeno Goku fight against Xeno Turles and transform into SSJ4 to fight against Broly and Mira. Xeno Vegeta fight his father and Xeno Trunks fight against Cell X , Xeno Frieza , Xeno Slug .
Because Supreme Oppai Of The Time forbidden them to transform since it could twist more from the already altered timeline, thats why Xeno Goku and Xeno Vegeta only turn outs SSJ4 when they are already on the Dark Realm.
Is game also confirmed SSJ4 can altered timeline.
No that’s manga lore only, in the arcade game they never say that the Supreme Kai of time told them not to transform into ssj4 because it can alter time. Only manga

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Post by ankokudaishogun » Sun Dec 08, 2019 2:09 pm

S3 Hendrix wrote:
Sat Dec 07, 2019 4:05 pm
No that’s manga lore only, in the arcade game they never say that the Supreme Kai of time told them not to transform into ssj4 because it can alter time. Only manga
IIRC in the arcade she told them they could go SS4 in Dark Demon Realm because it was not an altered timeline

This implied the great power of the SS4 transformation would worsen the situation in an altered timeline

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Post by S3 Hendrix » Sun Dec 08, 2019 3:39 pm

ankokudaishogun wrote:
Sun Dec 08, 2019 2:09 pm
S3 Hendrix wrote:
Sat Dec 07, 2019 4:05 pm
No that’s manga lore only, in the arcade game they never say that the Supreme Kai of time told them not to transform into ssj4 because it can alter time. Only manga
IIRC in the arcade she told them they could go SS4 in Dark Demon Realm because it was not an altered timeline

This implied the great power of the SS4 transformation would worsen the situation in an altered timeline
That’s in the manga because Vegeta xeno ask her if it’s okay, not the arcade game

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Post by Hulk10 » Sun Dec 08, 2019 5:07 pm

SSJ4 can alter time in this manga? Cool.
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Post by ankokudaishogun » Sun Dec 08, 2019 6:07 pm

Hulk10 wrote:
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SSJ4 can alter time in this manga? Cool.
More like it's a so powerful form, it would amplify the instability of an already unstable altered timeline


I was sure it was in the arcade, too,but must have recalled it wrong.

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Post by Hulk10 » Sun Dec 08, 2019 6:12 pm

ankokudaishogun wrote:
Sun Dec 08, 2019 6:07 pm
Hulk10 wrote:
Sun Dec 08, 2019 5:07 pm
SSJ4 can alter time in this manga? Cool.
More like it's a so powerful form, it would amplify the instability of an already unstable altered timeline


I was sure it was in the arcade, too,but must have recalled it wrong.
Makes sense as it is a very powerful form.
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Post by Steven Bloodriver » Sun Dec 08, 2019 6:28 pm

Hulk10 wrote:
Sun Dec 08, 2019 6:12 pm
ankokudaishogun wrote:
Sun Dec 08, 2019 6:07 pm
Hulk10 wrote:
Sun Dec 08, 2019 5:07 pm
SSJ4 can alter time in this manga? Cool.
More like it's a so powerful form, it would amplify the instability of an already unstable altered timeline


I was sure it was in the arcade, too,but must have recalled it wrong.
Makes sense as it is a very powerful form.
Super Saiyan God needed to fight at full power and against a God of Destruction in order to have affected a Universe, while the mere presence of a Super Saiyan 4 is enough to affect an entire Timeline.

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Post by Hulk10 » Sun Dec 08, 2019 6:41 pm

Steven Bloodriver wrote:
Sun Dec 08, 2019 6:28 pm
Hulk10 wrote:
Sun Dec 08, 2019 6:12 pm
ankokudaishogun wrote:
Sun Dec 08, 2019 6:07 pm

More like it's a so powerful form, it would amplify the instability of an already unstable altered timeline


I was sure it was in the arcade, too,but must have recalled it wrong.
Makes sense as it is a very powerful form.
Super Saiyan God needed to fight at full power and against a God of Destruction in order to have affected a Universe, while the mere presence of a Super Saiyan 4 is enough to affect an entire Timeline.
I'm picking up a vibe of sarcasm.
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Post by Gohan123 » Mon Dec 09, 2019 3:08 am

ankokudaishogun wrote:
Sun Dec 08, 2019 6:07 pm
Hulk10 wrote:
Sun Dec 08, 2019 5:07 pm
SSJ4 can alter time in this manga? Cool.
More like it's a so powerful form, it would amplify the instability of an already unstable altered timeline


I was sure it was in the arcade, too,but must have recalled it wrong.
https://youtu.be/7yyabysMqVU

If someone could translate this video maybe we can some translation about SSJ4 can alter the time.

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