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Post by ankokudaishogun » Sat Dec 19, 2020 7:39 am

Dark_Tzitzimine wrote:
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Uh, they did recolor his SS4 form and not his SS4Full Power form. Weird.

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Post by Grand Marshal 1 » Sat Dec 19, 2020 7:53 am

ankokudaishogun wrote:
Sat Dec 19, 2020 7:39 am
Dark_Tzitzimine wrote:
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Uh, they did recolor his SS4 form and not his SS4Full Power form. Weird.
looks kinda bad imo. SS4 Broly was already an extravagant design, now with redish hair too? :sick:
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Post by DNA » Sat Dec 19, 2020 9:57 am

I believe they are saving it for an animated adaptation. Cross promotion and all that.
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Post by Gohan123 » Sun Dec 20, 2020 6:50 am

New arc : Space Time War.
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Heart new costume.
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New Character.
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I have one question about the picture.

1. Where is Xeno crew ? Did they get separate with DBS cast and trying to catch Fu , Tora and Mira ?

2. Who is new character ? I have theory that guy/girl is saiyan from Cumber era and get sent to future because the space and time has been crumble.

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Post by Grand Marshal 1 » Sun Dec 20, 2020 8:47 am

Gohan123 wrote:
Sun Dec 20, 2020 6:50 am
New arc : Space Time War.
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Heart new costume.
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New Character.
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I have one question about the picture.

1. Where is Xeno crew ? Did they get separate with DBS cast and trying to catch Fu , Tora and Mira ?

2. Who is new character ? I have theory that guy/girl is saiyan from Cumber era and get sent to future because the space and time has been crumble.
Imagine if the hooded figure is actually Giblet from Legends. The lore checks out and I believe since the theme of this arc is very similar to the cross-time/space plot of Legends, it could make even more sense.
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Post by Gohan123 » Sun Dec 20, 2020 3:57 pm

Grand Marshal 1 wrote:
Sun Dec 20, 2020 8:47 am
Gohan123 wrote:
Sun Dec 20, 2020 6:50 am
New arc : Space Time War.
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Heart new costume.
Image

New Character.
Image

I have one question about the picture.

1. Where is Xeno crew ? Did they get separate with DBS cast and trying to catch Fu , Tora and Mira ?

2. Who is new character ? I have theory that guy/girl is saiyan from Cumber era and get sent to future because the space and time has been crumble.
Imagine if the hooded figure is actually Giblet from Legends. The lore checks out and I believe since the theme of this arc is very similar to the cross-time/space plot of Legends, it could make even more sense.
If that person is Giblet. There good chance about him and Cumber know each other.

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Post by Majin Demigra » Sun Dec 20, 2020 6:04 pm

So did they forget that Zamasu is still around in the manga? Lagss glassed him and after she was absorbed, everything she glassed over was restored. Plus he was still sentient as glass.

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Post by ankokudaishogun » Sun Dec 20, 2020 7:31 pm

Gohan123 wrote:
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New arc : Space Time War.
"(the)New Space-time War" specifically.

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Post by Dragotaker » Sun Dec 20, 2020 7:37 pm

The new arc looks to be a lot more hype if anything for the amount of characters is gonna feature if we go by the first look we have.

Weird how of all the old villians that came back from the beginning of BBM that are in that pic Super 17 is the only one missing, wonder if that means anything? they still have to tell what happened to his and Bojack fights, hope he survives and is given something better later.

Also Super Goku, Vegeta and even Gohan but not anybody from the time patrol not even Trunks, i hope they don't just cast them aside for the reminder of the next arc and have them do something too, having them on their own history parallel with the Super one like they did at the end of the Universe Survival Arc would be the best.

That new character, i hope is somebody new, maybe Yamoshi? since we already have Cumber and Shallot from the past he is the only one that is missing and i think he needs to appear at least once at some point.

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Post by Xeogran » Sun Dec 20, 2020 8:28 pm

Majin Demigra wrote:
Sun Dec 20, 2020 6:04 pm
So did they forget that Zamasu is still around in the manga? Lagss glassed him and after she was absorbed, everything she glassed over was restored. Plus he was still sentient as glass.
Might as well pretend he's done, with him being immortal there's hardly a way to defeat Zamasu and write around him.

Ozotto is also out there and nobody even remembers. Dr. W too, why introduce so many unknown characters if you never explain them.

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Post by Gohan123 » Sun Dec 20, 2020 11:39 pm

Xeogran wrote:
Sun Dec 20, 2020 8:28 pm
Majin Demigra wrote:
Sun Dec 20, 2020 6:04 pm
So did they forget that Zamasu is still around in the manga? Lagss glassed him and after she was absorbed, everything she glassed over was restored. Plus he was still sentient as glass.
Might as well pretend he's done, with him being immortal there's hardly a way to defeat Zamasu and write around him.

Ozotto is also out there and nobody even remembers. Dr. W too, why introduce so many unknown characters if you never explain them.
I agree.

However don't trying to merge manga with Anime and Game. Both of them have different conclusion.

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Post by SupremeKai25 » Mon Dec 21, 2020 1:39 pm

Majin Demigra wrote:
Sun Dec 20, 2020 6:04 pm
So did they forget that Zamasu is still around in the manga? Lagss glassed him and after she was absorbed, everything she glassed over was restored. Plus he was still sentient as glass.
He's most likely still around in the anime too. He was able to survive Zeno's Erase technique, so Hearts shouldn't be able to put him down for good, as Zeno > Hearts.

Notice how only Hearts is shown in Hell, Zamasu is nowhere to be seen.
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Post by Kanassa » Mon Dec 21, 2020 3:26 pm

SupremeKai25 wrote:
Mon Dec 21, 2020 1:39 pm
Majin Demigra wrote:
Sun Dec 20, 2020 6:04 pm
So did they forget that Zamasu is still around in the manga? Lagss glassed him and after she was absorbed, everything she glassed over was restored. Plus he was still sentient as glass.
He's most likely still around in the anime too. He was able to survive Zeno's Erase technique, so Hearts shouldn't be able to put him down for good, as Zeno > Hearts.

Notice how only Hearts is shown in Hell, Zamasu is nowhere to be seen.
Hearts didn't kill or erase Zamasu, he absorbed him. So Zamasu is technically still around, he's just apart of Hearts now.
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Post by SupremeKai25 » Mon Dec 21, 2020 3:38 pm

Kanassa wrote:
Mon Dec 21, 2020 3:26 pm
SupremeKai25 wrote:
Mon Dec 21, 2020 1:39 pm
Majin Demigra wrote:
Sun Dec 20, 2020 6:04 pm
So did they forget that Zamasu is still around in the manga? Lagss glassed him and after she was absorbed, everything she glassed over was restored. Plus he was still sentient as glass.
He's most likely still around in the anime too. He was able to survive Zeno's Erase technique, so Hearts shouldn't be able to put him down for good, as Zeno > Hearts.

Notice how only Hearts is shown in Hell, Zamasu is nowhere to be seen.
Hearts didn't kill or erase Zamasu, he absorbed him. So Zamasu is technically still around, he's just apart of Hearts now.
Are you sure Hearts absorbed Zamasu? I am referring to this scene:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v1vFgDQRNYA

It seemed to me that Hearts disintegrated Zamasu, instead of absorbing him, but maybe I'm wrong. I haven't watched this show in, like, 1 year.
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Post by Kanassa » Mon Dec 21, 2020 7:51 pm

SupremeKai25 wrote:
Mon Dec 21, 2020 3:38 pm
Kanassa wrote:
Mon Dec 21, 2020 3:26 pm
SupremeKai25 wrote:
Mon Dec 21, 2020 1:39 pm


He's most likely still around in the anime too. He was able to survive Zeno's Erase technique, so Hearts shouldn't be able to put him down for good, as Zeno > Hearts.

Notice how only Hearts is shown in Hell, Zamasu is nowhere to be seen.
Hearts didn't kill or erase Zamasu, he absorbed him. So Zamasu is technically still around, he's just apart of Hearts now.
Are you sure Hearts absorbed Zamasu? I am referring to this scene:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v1vFgDQRNYA

It seemed to me that Hearts disintegrated Zamasu, instead of absorbing him, but maybe I'm wrong. I haven't watched this show in, like, 1 year.
Huh. I could have sworn there was a line about Hearts 'making [Zamasu's] power' his own.
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Post by MisteryOne » Mon Dec 21, 2020 8:20 pm

I have quite some mixed thoughts about the new revealed stuff but, I feel like I should probably wait for this new arc to start before complaining, I guess.
SupremeKai25 wrote:
Mon Dec 21, 2020 1:39 pm
Majin Demigra wrote:
Sun Dec 20, 2020 6:04 pm
So did they forget that Zamasu is still around in the manga? Lagss glassed him and after she was absorbed, everything she glassed over was restored. Plus he was still sentient as glass.
He's most likely still around in the anime too. He was able to survive Zeno's Erase technique, so Hearts shouldn't be able to put him down for good, as Zeno > Hearts.

Notice how only Hearts is shown in Hell, Zamasu is nowhere to be seen.
Nothing says that being erased by Zeno makes you go to the afterlife/hell at all, in fact quite the opposite. Also the anime never mentioned he surviving Zeno (which btw is stupid if you ask me), only the manga.
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SupremeKai25 wrote:
Mon Dec 21, 2020 3:38 pm
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Mon Dec 21, 2020 3:26 pm


Hearts didn't kill or erase Zamasu, he absorbed him. So Zamasu is technically still around, he's just apart of Hearts now.
Are you sure Hearts absorbed Zamasu? I am referring to this scene:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v1vFgDQRNYA

It seemed to me that Hearts disintegrated Zamasu, instead of absorbing him, but maybe I'm wrong. I haven't watched this show in, like, 1 year.
Huh. I could have sworn there was a line about Hearts 'making [Zamasu's] power' his own.
He just said his inmortal power had been useful for him so far.
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Post by SupremeKai25 » Tue Dec 22, 2020 6:22 am

MisteryOne wrote:
Mon Dec 21, 2020 8:20 pm
I have quite some mixed thoughts about the new revealed stuff but, I feel like I should probably wait for this new arc to start before complaining, I guess.
SupremeKai25 wrote:
Mon Dec 21, 2020 1:39 pm
Majin Demigra wrote:
Sun Dec 20, 2020 6:04 pm
So did they forget that Zamasu is still around in the manga? Lagss glassed him and after she was absorbed, everything she glassed over was restored. Plus he was still sentient as glass.
He's most likely still around in the anime too. He was able to survive Zeno's Erase technique, so Hearts shouldn't be able to put him down for good, as Zeno > Hearts.

Notice how only Hearts is shown in Hell, Zamasu is nowhere to be seen.
Nothing says that being erased by Zeno makes you go to the afterlife/hell at all, in fact quite the opposite. Also the anime never mentioned he surviving Zeno (which btw is stupid if you ask me), only the manga.
No, I'm saying AFTER the Universal Conflict arc. Hearts was clearly shown in Hell, while Zamasu wasn't, why wouldn't Zamasu be there if Hearts killed him?
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Post by Grand Marshal 1 » Tue Dec 22, 2020 6:34 am

SupremeKai25 wrote:
Tue Dec 22, 2020 6:22 am
MisteryOne wrote:
Mon Dec 21, 2020 8:20 pm
I have quite some mixed thoughts about the new revealed stuff but, I feel like I should probably wait for this new arc to start before complaining, I guess.
SupremeKai25 wrote:
Mon Dec 21, 2020 1:39 pm


He's most likely still around in the anime too. He was able to survive Zeno's Erase technique, so Hearts shouldn't be able to put him down for good, as Zeno > Hearts.

Notice how only Hearts is shown in Hell, Zamasu is nowhere to be seen.
Nothing says that being erased by Zeno makes you go to the afterlife/hell at all, in fact quite the opposite. Also the anime never mentioned he surviving Zeno (which btw is stupid if you ask me), only the manga.
No, I'm saying AFTER the Universal Conflict arc. Hearts was clearly shown in Hell, while Zamasu wasn't, why wouldn't Zamasu be there if Hearts killed him?
I think Zamasu always gets the erasure card when it comes to dying. Meaning he ceases to exist. Now how did Fu even get him to the Core Area to begin with? Time travel? When though, cause Zamasu has fused. Not only that he harbors feelings of hate towards the cast. Did he go through the canon events? It's safe to say that with answers to that he may return.
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Post by SupremeKai25 » Tue Dec 22, 2020 6:46 am

Grand Marshal 1 wrote:
Tue Dec 22, 2020 6:34 am
SupremeKai25 wrote:
Tue Dec 22, 2020 6:22 am
MisteryOne wrote:
Mon Dec 21, 2020 8:20 pm
I have quite some mixed thoughts about the new revealed stuff but, I feel like I should probably wait for this new arc to start before complaining, I guess.


Nothing says that being erased by Zeno makes you go to the afterlife/hell at all, in fact quite the opposite. Also the anime never mentioned he surviving Zeno (which btw is stupid if you ask me), only the manga.
No, I'm saying AFTER the Universal Conflict arc. Hearts was clearly shown in Hell, while Zamasu wasn't, why wouldn't Zamasu be there if Hearts killed him?
I think Zamasu always gets the erasure card when it comes to dying. Meaning he ceases to exist. Now how did Fu even get him to the Core Area to begin with? Time travel? When though, cause Zamasu has fused. Not only that he harbors feelings of hate towards the cast. Did he go through the canon events? It's safe to say that with answers to that he may return.
He survived Zeno's Erasure, there's no other explanation. Apparently this is directly stated in the manga, but regardless it's obvious in the anime too. Zamasu makes it clear that he already fought those ningens in the past, and coincidentally he also has technological enhancements covering his right side, the same side of his body that became damaged during his fight with Goku. He even has an eyepatch covering his corrupted eye, and has one sleeve of his shirt torn up, on the same side where his arm became enormous.

Point is, this is 100% the same Zamasu from the canon continuity, who fought Goku, Vegeta, Trunks, and Vegito, transformed into a Corrupted state, was cut in half, erased, but somehow survived, because he's clearly there to fight in Hearts' team.

So if he survived Zeno's attack, he 100% survived Hearts' attack too, which means that he's probably still around, even if he might take some time to recover.
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Post by Scientist Fu » Tue Dec 22, 2020 9:18 am

He didn't survive Zeno's erasure. In the sixth episode, Fu said "they will revive soon" he is referring to the Core Area warriors and then they appear at the end of the episode.
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I don't know how Fu managed to revive them, but that's the only explanation they provided in the anime.

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