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Post by sunsetshimmer » Sun Jul 01, 2018 8:14 am

Was it explained why Goku Xeno has adult body?
Or he wasn't turned into kid at all?
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Post by S3 Hendrix » Sun Jul 01, 2018 9:13 am

sunsetshimmer wrote:Was it explained why Goku Xeno has adult body?
Or he wasn't turned into kid at all?
Goku Xeno isn’t GT Goku

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Post by sunsetshimmer » Sun Jul 01, 2018 9:22 am

S3 Hendrix wrote:
sunsetshimmer wrote:Was it explained why Goku Xeno has adult body?
Or he wasn't turned into kid at all?
Goku Xeno isn’t GT Goku
I know that. But he got through GT events. And without Goku becoming a kid there would be no Black Star saga and Baby wouldn't be revealed and Goku wouldn't get SSj4.
That's why i am asking how it looked in his timeline.
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Post by STH » Sun Jul 01, 2018 9:29 am

sunsetshimmer wrote:
S3 Hendrix wrote:
sunsetshimmer wrote:Was it explained why Goku Xeno has adult body?
Or he wasn't turned into kid at all?
Goku Xeno isn’t GT Goku
I know that. But he got through GT events. And without Goku becoming a kid there would be no Black Star saga and Baby wouldn't be revealed and Goku wouldn't get SSj4.
That's why i am asking how it looked in his timeline.
GT Goku wasn't a kid in the 'Dragon Ball GT: A Hero's Legacy'
So, he has grown up in 100 years. I think that's why.
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Is this a legitimate picture?

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Post by sunsetshimmer » Sun Jul 01, 2018 9:54 am

STH wrote:
sunsetshimmer wrote:
S3 Hendrix wrote:
Goku Xeno isn’t GT Goku
I know that. But he got through GT events. And without Goku becoming a kid there would be no Black Star saga and Baby wouldn't be revealed and Goku wouldn't get SSj4.
That's why i am asking how it looked in his timeline.
GT Goku wasn't a kid in the 'Dragon Ball GT: A Hero's Legacy'
So, he has grown up in 100 years. I think that's why.
So Goku Xeno is after those 100 years? I thought he was somewhere from end of Shadow Dragons saga and just didn't fly off with Shenron or something like that.
That would explain him being adult although it doesn't explain how is he actually still living. If Goku was alive all the time then he would die before "A Hero's Legacy" anyway. He was more like a ghost there and at the end of GT. Maybe he got brought back to life or something, i don't know.

Unless he didn't fly off with Shenron and just grew up in next years and then become Time Patroller. After last GT saga but still long before "A Hero's Legacy".
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Re: "(Super) Dragon Ball Heroes" Official Discussion Thread

Post by shadowfox87 » Sun Jul 01, 2018 11:27 am

sunsetshimmer wrote:
STH wrote:
sunsetshimmer wrote:
I know that. But he got through GT events. And without Goku becoming a kid there would be no Black Star saga and Baby wouldn't be revealed and Goku wouldn't get SSj4.
That's why i am asking how it looked in his timeline.
GT Goku wasn't a kid in the 'Dragon Ball GT: A Hero's Legacy'
So, he has grown up in 100 years. I think that's why.
So Goku Xeno is after those 100 years? I thought he was somewhere from end of Shadow Dragons saga and just didn't fly off with Shenron or something like that.
That would explain him being adult although it doesn't explain how is he actually still living. If Goku was alive all the time then he would die before "A Hero's Legacy" anyway. He was more like a ghost there and at the end of GT. Maybe he got brought back to life or something, i don't know.

Unless he didn't fly off with Shenron and just grew up in next years and then become Time Patroller. After last GT saga but still long before "A Hero's Legacy".
It's just speculation as we don't know for sure. However, I do agree and believe that Goku: Xeno is GT Goku after he has grown into an adult at the end of the Evil Shenron Saga. What happened to Goku at the end of GT is still a mystery, but I don't think he died. The continuity of SDBH and how Chronoa summons Goku: Xeno from Trunks' memories after the end of GT would make the most sense. The Dragon Balls were absorbed into Goku but they were reactivated a 100 years later.

Kanzenshuu in fact dedicated an article to it:
http://www.kanzenshuu.com/tidbits/drago ... -analysis/
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Post by mahakaishin1991 » Sun Jul 01, 2018 12:12 pm

sunsetshimmer wrote:
STH wrote:
sunsetshimmer wrote:
I know that. But he got through GT events. And without Goku becoming a kid there would be no Black Star saga and Baby wouldn't be revealed and Goku wouldn't get SSj4.
That's why i am asking how it looked in his timeline.
GT Goku wasn't a kid in the 'Dragon Ball GT: A Hero's Legacy'
So, he has grown up in 100 years. I think that's why.
So Goku Xeno is after those 100 years? I thought he was somewhere from end of Shadow Dragons saga and just didn't fly off with Shenron or something like that.
That would explain him being adult although it doesn't explain how is he actually still living. If Goku was alive all the time then he would die before "A Hero's Legacy" anyway. He was more like a ghost there and at the end of GT. Maybe he got brought back to life or something, i don't know.

Unless he didn't fly off with Shenron and just grew up in next years and then become Time Patroller. After last GT saga but still long before "A Hero's Legacy".
Saiyans live longer than humans and stay youthful longer, he was also seen by Pan in the crowds of the tournament goku jr and vegeta jr were in. He could just have been nearing the end of his life now hed grown up again

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Post by mahakaishin1991 » Sun Jul 01, 2018 12:13 pm

shadowfox87 wrote:
sunsetshimmer wrote:
STH wrote: GT Goku wasn't a kid in the 'Dragon Ball GT: A Hero's Legacy'
So, he has grown up in 100 years. I think that's why.
So Goku Xeno is after those 100 years? I thought he was somewhere from end of Shadow Dragons saga and just didn't fly off with Shenron or something like that.
That would explain him being adult although it doesn't explain how is he actually still living. If Goku was alive all the time then he would die before "A Hero's Legacy" anyway. He was more like a ghost there and at the end of GT. Maybe he got brought back to life or something, i don't know.

Unless he didn't fly off with Shenron and just grew up in next years and then become Time Patroller. After last GT saga but still long before "A Hero's Legacy".
It's just speculation as we don't know for sure. However, I do agree and believe that Goku: Xeno is GT Goku after he has grown into an adult at the end of the Evil Shenron Saga. What happened to Goku at the end of GT is still a mystery, but I don't think he died. The continuity of SDBH and how Chronoa summons Goku: Xeno from Trunks' memories after the end of GT would make the most sense. The Dragon Balls were absorbed into Goku but they were reactivated a 100 years later.

Kanzenshuu in fact dedicated an article to it:
http://www.kanzenshuu.com/tidbits/drago ... -analysis/
Thing is it depends on if we include Super in his timeline or not, and if we take the dialogue in one of the DS games about knowing of God Ki at face value. Theres a number of variables to consider before we state exactly where he comes from.

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Post by Baggie_Saiyan » Sun Jul 01, 2018 12:25 pm

Disappointed that the secret Heroes thing they've been teasing is seemingly Vegetto Blue but seeing it proper the outfit does look great.

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Post by Grimlock » Sun Jul 01, 2018 12:41 pm

DainIronfoot wrote:I'm in love with this shot of Vegetto!
Yeah, I love that Vegetto's outfit changes when it needs to, unlike in a certain other media. I would normally complain that it's Vegetto once again, but he's coming with a cool design, Kaio-Ken, and possibly with a variation of the Final Kamehameha technique. But once he vanishes from Prison Planet saga, he must vanish for a long time.

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Post by Rinsankajugin » Sun Jul 01, 2018 1:11 pm

Grimlock wrote:
DainIronfoot wrote:I'm in love with this shot of Vegetto!
Yeah, I love that Vegetto's outfit changes when it needs to, unlike in a certain other media. I would normally complain that it's Vegetto once again, but he's coming with a cool design, Kaio-Ken, and possibly with a variation of the Final Kamehameha technique. But once he vanishes from Prison Planet saga, he must vanish for a long time.

I have been searching for the UM3 CG trailer but I can't find it. Damn, why the CG trailers get this horrible treatment? I still want that one in which Mira appears with wings and the one that Dark Masked King appears in HD.
There have been leaked pics of the gameplay trailer here and there, showing off Kaioken Vegetto Blue, Rovel and Ozotto, while also revealing Super Saiyan Cumber and Evil 21.

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Post by shadowfox87 » Sun Jul 01, 2018 1:33 pm

mahakaishin1991 wrote:Thing is it depends on if we include Super in his timeline or not, and if we take the dialogue in one of the DS games about knowing of God Ki at face value. Theres a number of variables to consider before we state exactly where he comes from.
Yea, I don't count Ultimate Mission X and the events of Super happening for Goku: Xeno. For me, the main timeline had Super and a separate timeline had GT which is where Chronoa summoned Goku: Xeno from. In fact, I only go by the DBO timeline, XV timeline, and SDBH manga. Victory Missions, 3ds games, and other stuff are just aren't part of the same continuity and it just doesn't fit when you include them.
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Post by Rinsankajugin » Sun Jul 01, 2018 2:17 pm

Is it just me, or is Xeno Goku looking a bit different in this card?

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Post by sintzu » Sun Jul 01, 2018 2:51 pm

Rinsankajugin wrote:Is it just me, or is Xeno Goku looking a bit different in this card?

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Could that be Xeno Black ? Goku's outfit has red but I don't see any here. Then again, Gohan is there so maybe Goku's getting a new outfit ?
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Post by Rinsankajugin » Sun Jul 01, 2018 3:13 pm

sintzu wrote:
Rinsankajugin wrote:Is it just me, or is Xeno Goku looking a bit different in this card?

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Could that be Xeno Black ? Goku's outfit has red but I don't see any here. Then again, Gohan is there so maybe Goku's getting a new outfit ?
No, that's just Xeno Goku's new outfit, but what I'm trying to say is that he looks... smaller. Compare to the Xeno Goku in this card:

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Post by mahakaishin1991 » Sun Jul 01, 2018 3:37 pm

Rinsankajugin wrote:
sintzu wrote:
Rinsankajugin wrote:Is it just me, or is Xeno Goku looking a bit different in this card?

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Could that be Xeno Black ? Goku's outfit has red but I don't see any here. Then again, Gohan is there so maybe Goku's getting a new outfit ?
No, that's just Xeno Goku's new outfit, but what I'm trying to say is that he looks... smaller. Compare to the Xeno Goku in this card:

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the hair isnt spiked correctly for goku and his face seems... distorted? on one side?

maybe its a new xeno turles or something. we'll wait and see

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Post by Grimlock » Sun Jul 01, 2018 3:50 pm

Rinsankajugin wrote:There have been leaked pics of the gameplay trailer here and there, showing off Kaioken Vegetto Blue, Rovel and Ozotto, while also revealing Super Saiyan Cumber and Evil 21.
I did see some of them but not others, it's like they deleted the tweets. Well, I can wait until next week to see those stuff. But I want some old trailers in HD too.
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Post by Draconic » Sun Jul 01, 2018 3:54 pm

mahakaishin1991 wrote:
Rinsankajugin wrote:
sintzu wrote:
Could that be Xeno Black ? Goku's outfit has red but I don't see any here. Then again, Gohan is there so maybe Goku's getting a new outfit ?
No, that's just Xeno Goku's new outfit, but what I'm trying to say is that he looks... smaller. Compare to the Xeno Goku in this card:

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the hair isnt spiked correctly for goku and his face seems... distorted? on one side?

maybe its a new xeno turles or something. we'll wait and see
Maybe Xeno Goku is getting UI Omen :lol: It's probably just a wind effect, tho.
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Post by alakazam^ » Sun Jul 01, 2018 3:56 pm

mahakaishin1991 wrote:the hair isnt spiked correctly for goku and his face seems... distorted? on one side?

maybe its a new xeno turles or something. we'll wait and see
It's Goku: Xeno.

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