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Post by Ssb_goku20 » Sun Sep 09, 2018 12:16 pm

mahakaishin1991 wrote:
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mahakaishin1991 wrote:is this mission out yet? I'm looking forward to seeing if we get any teasers for new content/forms etc
Last i saw UM4 doesn't release till the 13th
Not long now till something silly with Kanba the best saiyan
Lol. Ironically i do want to see how far they're going to go with Kanba abilities

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Post by mahakaishin1991 » Sun Sep 09, 2018 6:48 pm

Ssb_goku20 wrote:
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Ssb_goku20 wrote: Last i saw UM4 doesn't release till the 13th
Not long now till something silly with Kanba the best saiyan
Lol. Ironically i do want to see how far they're going to go with Kanba abilities
he's like a new version of old Broly with less insanity. I love it. He's gone from control ring to full blown straight jacket. In fact I'd welcome him showing up if they do an ancient saiyan backstory arc

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Post by Ssb_goku20 » Sun Sep 09, 2018 6:55 pm

mahakaishin1991 wrote:
Ssb_goku20 wrote:
mahakaishin1991 wrote:
Not long now till something silly with Kanba the best saiyan
Lol. Ironically i do want to see how far they're going to go with Kanba abilities
he's like a new version of old Broly with less insanity. I love it. He's gone from control ring to full blown straight jacket. In fact I'd welcome him showing up if they do an ancient saiyan backstory arc
Yeah i would love to see him again

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Post by ricky84 » Mon Sep 10, 2018 12:56 am

If its revealed that Cumber was the ancient Saiyan that killed Yamoshi then that would be a great story.
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Post by Ssb_goku20 » Mon Sep 10, 2018 12:58 am

ricky84 wrote:If its revealed that Cumber was the ancient Saiyan that killed Yamoshi then that would be a great story.
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Post by Noah » Mon Sep 10, 2018 2:43 pm

The concept of Cumber is interesting, though like some said before he's just a new Broly, there's nothing interesting with his character unlike Shallot who also is Ancient Saiyan, but not stupidily overpowered and has a personality.
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Post by mahakaishin1991 » Mon Sep 10, 2018 6:01 pm

Noah wrote:The concept of Cumber is interesting, though like some said before he's just a new Broly, there's nothing interesting with his character unlike Shallot who also is Ancient Saiyan, but not stupidily overpowered and has a personality.
Kanba is a little more nuanced than Broly, but it's subtle. Rather than being a homocidal maniac, he shows genuine respect for his foes, and seems to have an akuma-esque sense of honour in fighting a worthy foe with everything he has. Thats impressive given he's a game character with limited story and screen time, especially when he's not had much screen time in anything other than glorified adverts for the game, and he's showing more than Broly did in his two movies.

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Post by Xeztin » Tue Sep 11, 2018 7:19 am

Kanba is probably Shallots brother or something crazy and they’ve chosen two sides. Evil Saiyan’s and Yamoshi. I’ve noticed manga and anime likes making brothers fight each other.

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Post by Bebi Hatchiyack » Tue Sep 11, 2018 7:54 am

Noah wrote:The concept of Cumber is interesting, though like some said before he's just a new Broly, there's nothing interesting with his character unlike Shallot who also is Ancient Saiyan, but not stupidily overpowered and has a personality.
Gotta object here, Kanba is not a killing machine like Broly he seems be in between Goku battle craziness with Broly cheer unlimited power, thus making him a foe who seek only battle. That's how I feel this character.

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Post by mahakaishin1991 » Tue Sep 11, 2018 10:34 am

Xeztin wrote:Kanba is probably Shallots brother or something crazy and they’ve chosen two sides. Evil Saiyan’s and Yamoshi. I’ve noticed manga and anime likes making brothers fight each other.
then why are they separated in the media?

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Post by Dragotaker » Tue Sep 11, 2018 2:57 pm

I was thinking that if Cumber ends up being the enemy Yamoshi fought and the reason for him to become SSG in the first place, if he ends up becoming SS4 then maybe it could be like SSG and SS4 are opossite transformations from each other kinda like good and evil respectively, just something to add to the lore and make it more interesting, even though Time Patrol is all about SS4 and they are the good guys, there is also that Broly God from that 3D movie, but i think you get the idea.

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Post by Gt91 » Tue Sep 11, 2018 3:14 pm

Dragotaker wrote:I was thinking that if Cumber ends up being the enemy Yamoshi fought and the reason for him to become SSG in the first place, if he ends up becoming SS4 then maybe it could be like SSG and SS4 are opossite transformations from each other kinda like good and evil respectively, just something to add to the lore and make it more interesting, even though Time Patrol is all about SS4 and they are the good guys, there is also that Broly God from that 3D movie, but i think you get the idea.
That would be really interesting. We'll see :)

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Post by MisteryOne » Tue Sep 11, 2018 3:16 pm

Dragotaker wrote:I was thinking that if Cumber ends up being the enemy Yamoshi fought and the reason for him to become SSG in the first place, if he ends up becoming SS4 then maybe it could be like SSG and SS4 are opossite transformations from each other kinda like good and evil respectively, just something to add to the lore and make it more interesting, even though Time Patrol is all about SS4 and they are the good guys, there is also that Broly God from that 3D movie, but i think you get the idea.
Problem with that is Yamoshi was the first SS, not the first SSG. His spirit is used on the ritual but he never became a SSG himself.

I like the idea trough. Kamba himself has odd features in every one of his forms so there has to be an explanation. Rex eyes on base, pupils as SS, orange oozaru fur, etc.
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Post by Dragotaker » Tue Sep 11, 2018 4:12 pm

MisteryOne wrote:
Dragotaker wrote:I was thinking that if Cumber ends up being the enemy Yamoshi fought and the reason for him to become SSG in the first place, if he ends up becoming SS4 then maybe it could be like SSG and SS4 are opossite transformations from each other kinda like good and evil respectively, just something to add to the lore and make it more interesting, even though Time Patrol is all about SS4 and they are the good guys, there is also that Broly God from that 3D movie, but i think you get the idea.
Problem with that is Yamoshi was the first SS, not the first SSG. His spirit is used on the ritual but he never became a SSG himself.

I like the idea trough. Kamba himself has odd features in every one of his forms so there has to be an explanation. Rex eyes on base, pupils as SS, orange oozaru fur, etc.
Now i'm confused, then the part where 6 righteous saiyans made the ritual for one to become SSG and banish the evils saiyans wasn't Yamoshi??? then who was???

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Post by ricky84 » Tue Sep 11, 2018 4:16 pm

Dragotaker wrote:
MisteryOne wrote:
Dragotaker wrote:I was thinking that if Cumber ends up being the enemy Yamoshi fought and the reason for him to become SSG in the first place, if he ends up becoming SS4 then maybe it could be like SSG and SS4 are opossite transformations from each other kinda like good and evil respectively, just something to add to the lore and make it more interesting, even though Time Patrol is all about SS4 and they are the good guys, there is also that Broly God from that 3D movie, but i think you get the idea.
Problem with that is Yamoshi was the first SS, not the first SSG. His spirit is used on the ritual but he never became a SSG himself.

I like the idea trough. Kamba himself has odd features in every one of his forms so there has to be an explanation. Rex eyes on base, pupils as SS, orange oozaru fur, etc.
Now i'm confused, then the part where 6 righteous saiyans made the ritual for one to become SSG and banish the evils saiyans wasn't Yamoshi??? then who was???
The part about Yamoshi turning SSG was retconned, but everything else about him and the ritual is the same.
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Post by MisteryOne » Tue Sep 11, 2018 4:49 pm

Dragotaker wrote:
MisteryOne wrote:
Dragotaker wrote:I was thinking that if Cumber ends up being the enemy Yamoshi fought and the reason for him to become SSG in the first place, if he ends up becoming SS4 then maybe it could be like SSG and SS4 are opossite transformations from each other kinda like good and evil respectively, just something to add to the lore and make it more interesting, even though Time Patrol is all about SS4 and they are the good guys, there is also that Broly God from that 3D movie, but i think you get the idea.
Problem with that is Yamoshi was the first SS, not the first SSG. His spirit is used on the ritual but he never became a SSG himself.

I like the idea trough. Kamba himself has odd features in every one of his forms so there has to be an explanation. Rex eyes on base, pupils as SS, orange oozaru fur, etc.
Now i'm confused, then the part where 6 righteous saiyans made the ritual for one to become SSG and banish the evils saiyans wasn't Yamoshi??? then who was???
Yamoshi has only been mentioned in an interview when Toriyama said he was the first SS and he is the spirit that allows the SSG ritual to be a thing because he died facing evil saiyans. You can check Herms98 twitter to see it.

It never had anything to do with the SSG mentioned in the BoG film but for whatever reason fans confuse them.
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Post by mahakaishin1991 » Tue Sep 11, 2018 7:32 pm

MisteryOne wrote:
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MisteryOne wrote: Problem with that is Yamoshi was the first SS, not the first SSG. His spirit is used on the ritual but he never became a SSG himself.

I like the idea trough. Kamba himself has odd features in every one of his forms so there has to be an explanation. Rex eyes on base, pupils as SS, orange oozaru fur, etc.
Now i'm confused, then the part where 6 righteous saiyans made the ritual for one to become SSG and banish the evils saiyans wasn't Yamoshi??? then who was???
Yamoshi has only been mentioned in an interview when Toriyama said he was the first SS and he is the spirit that allows the SSG ritual to be a thing because he died facing evil saiyans. You can check Herms98 twitter to see it.

It never had anything to do with the SSG mentioned in the BoG film but for whatever reason fans confuse them.
That interview also has him say the saiyan god and the super saiyan were the same person, we still dont know enough to deconfirm

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Post by mahakaishin1991 » Tue Sep 11, 2018 7:33 pm

Dragotaker wrote:I was thinking that if Cumber ends up being the enemy Yamoshi fought and the reason for him to become SSG in the first place, if he ends up becoming SS4 then maybe it could be like SSG and SS4 are opossite transformations from each other kinda like good and evil respectively, just something to add to the lore and make it more interesting, even though Time Patrol is all about SS4 and they are the good guys, there is also that Broly God from that 3D movie, but i think you get the idea.
I dont think its more a good and evil thing, more beast vs divinity thing

which actually goes right back to Sun Wukong and his War against the heavens from the same lore go starts with. Interesting how it's coming back to the same source thematically.

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Post by ricky84 » Tue Sep 11, 2018 9:16 pm

mahakaishin1991 wrote:
Dragotaker wrote:I was thinking that if Cumber ends up being the enemy Yamoshi fought and the reason for him to become SSG in the first place, if he ends up becoming SS4 then maybe it could be like SSG and SS4 are opossite transformations from each other kinda like good and evil respectively, just something to add to the lore and make it more interesting, even though Time Patrol is all about SS4 and they are the good guys, there is also that Broly God from that 3D movie, but i think you get the idea.
I dont think its more a good and evil thing, more beast vs divinity thing

which actually goes right back to Sun Wukong and his War against the heavens from the same lore go starts with. Interesting how it's coming back to the same source thematically.
Interesting. I never thought of it from that angle.
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Post by ricky84 » Tue Sep 11, 2018 9:23 pm

I can see the writers revealing that Yamoshi, Shallot and Cumber are the ancient counterparts, ancestors and/or reincarnations of Goku, Vegeta and Broly respectively in the future. It would explain allot.

Yamoshi = the lone ancient U7 saiyan that was pure of heart.
Shallot = the mysterious arrogant saiyan with special blood/heritage
Cumber = the overpowered evil saiyan with unique ki and abilities.
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