"(Super) Dragon Ball Heroes" Official Discussion Thread

[MisteryOne]

I completely forgot that Zamasu went up against GoD Toppo and wasn't erased. His immortality is really something.

you forget even Golden Freeza managed to survive Toppo's Hakai.

Now: while it's realistic Toppo didn't use his full power to avoid killing Freeza, Fused Zamas is still able to go toe-to-toe with Vegetto Blue.

He's MUCH stronger than Golden Freeza. He likely didn't need immortality to deal with Toppo... especially because IIRC he was fighting alongside Cumber and Hearts

Actually, Zamasu faced both Toppo and Dyspo alone. He only teamed up with Hearts and Cumber against Jiren (and that beast was still able to face them).

Personally I don't think Hakai can actually erase everything, at least not in the Super anime/SDBH continuity. At least not if your opponent is strong enough compared to you. Even in the manga, Cumber did fine against Toppo.

This reminds me... who killed Zamasu in the arcade? Hearts? Is he even dead yet?

[Majin Demigra]

I completely forgot that Zamasu went up against GoD Toppo and wasn't erased. His immortality is really something.

you forget even Golden Freeza managed to survive Toppo's Hakai.

Now: while it's realistic Toppo didn't use his full power to avoid killing Freeza, Fused Zamas is still able to go toe-to-toe with Vegetto Blue.

He's MUCH stronger than Golden Freeza. He likely didn't need immortality to deal with Toppo... especially because IIRC he was fighting alongside Cumber and Hearts

Jiren while EXTREMELY supressed at the start of the ToP was already stronger than all incarnations of Zamasu according to Shin. Later in the arc, Goku(without UI) became stupidly more powerful than when he first went Omen and overpowered Jiren for an instant. Then Vegeta caught up to Goku with SSBE and struggled against GoD Toppo.

So I don't think he's out of Toppo's ballpark.

[S3 Hendrix]

I completely forgot that Zamasu went up against GoD Toppo and wasn't erased. His immortality is really something.

you forget even Golden Freeza managed to survive Toppo's Hakai.

Now: while it's realistic Toppo didn't use his full power to avoid killing Freeza, Fused Zamas is still able to go toe-to-toe with Vegetto Blue.

He's MUCH stronger than Golden Freeza. He likely didn't need immortality to deal with Toppo... especially because IIRC he was fighting alongside Cumber and Hearts

Actually, Zamasu faced both Toppo and Dyspo alone. He only teamed up with Hearts and Cumber against Jiren (and that beast was still able to face them).

Personally I don't think Hakai can actually erase everything, at least not in the Super anime/SDBH continuity. At least not if your opponent is strong enough compared to you. Even in the manga, Cumber did fine against Toppo.

This reminds me... who killed Zamasu in the arcade? Hearts? Is he even dead yet?

Zamasu is not dead yet in the arcade story but hearts will probably kill him, also Cumber fights with Zamasu vs GoD Toppo in the arcade, later GoD Toppo And dyspo fight Zamasu together. https://youtu.be/d2LeA-5P4rY

[Majin Demigra]

you forget even Golden Freeza managed to survive Toppo's Hakai.

Now: while it's realistic Toppo didn't use his full power to avoid killing Freeza, Fused Zamas is still able to go toe-to-toe with Vegetto Blue.

He's MUCH stronger than Golden Freeza. He likely didn't need immortality to deal with Toppo... especially because IIRC he was fighting alongside Cumber and Hearts

Actually, Zamasu faced both Toppo and Dyspo alone. He only teamed up with Hearts and Cumber against Jiren (and that beast was still able to face them).

Personally I don't think Hakai can actually erase everything, at least not in the Super anime/SDBH continuity. At least not if your opponent is strong enough compared to you. Even in the manga, Cumber did fine against Toppo.

This reminds me... who killed Zamasu in the arcade? Hearts? Is he even dead yet?

Zamasu is not dead yet in the arcade story but hearts will probably kill him, also Cumber fights with Zamasu vs GoD Toppo in the arcade, later GoD Toppo And dyspo fight Zamasu together. https://youtu.be/d2LeA-5P4rY

I hope Zamasu will ally with Team Universe when he realizes Hearts is too powerful and will be coming after him soon

[Rinsankajugin]

UM12 comes out in a couple of days. Has anyone heard any rumors on the SEC cards yet? They usually drop at around this time.

[MisteryOne]

UM12 comes out in a couple of days. Has anyone heard any rumors on the SEC cards yet? They usually drop at around this time.

I haven't seen any rumors but I think most of them will be just the usual random stuff. Xeno Vegito, God Trunks with his new sword and Blue Gogeta are already in the set as URs if I'm not mistaken. Same goes for Shroom and Salsa's new forms. So excluding Mechikaboola's new form the other three could be just random hype characters like UI Goku. (Ultimate Hearts was a SEC last set so I assume they won't repeat him).

[Gohan123]

tomorrow is last episode of SDBH UVM between Gogeta vs Hearts .

[Dark_Tzitzimine]

V4 looking good.

[Omgzord]

tomorrow is last episode of SDBH UVM between Gogeta vs Hearts .

It's the day after tomorrow I think. Episode release on January 9.

[Rakurai]

Monthly/bimonthly reminder, we have a separate thread on the promotional anime.

[MisteryOne]

According to Goresh:

New SEC cards seem to be SS2 Gohan, Gogeta UM (with Jiren and Hit in the background), Black Hole Mechikaboola and Gogeta UM with V4. Also they apparently named the new attack Gogeta used against Broly "Stardust Explosion".

The fact that they repeated Gogeta twice is amusing and funny, but the art looks damn good. I'm kind of digging they push V4 as some type of counterpart to him.

[Rinsankajugin]

According to Goresh:

New SEC cards seem to be SS2 Gohan, Gogeta UM (with Jiren and Hit in the background), Black Hole Mechikaboola and Gogeta UM with V4. Also they apparently named the new attack Gogeta used against Broly "Stardust Explosion".

The fact that they repeated Gogeta twice is amusing and funny, but the art looks damn good. I'm kind of diging they push V4 as some type of counterpart to him.

??? Why is there 2 Gogetas? That seems... really redundant...

[Rakurai]

UVM12 SEC cards (source):

SSB Gogeta: UM, SA is called Stardust Explosion, UA w/ Hit & Jiren

Spoiler:

SS2 Gohan, CAA is transformation from SS to SS2, SA: Father-son Kamehameha

Spoiler:

SSB Gogeta: UM, SA is Stardust Breaker, CAA is S/T transfer V4 to the field

Spoiler:

Dark King Mechikaboola, SA is called Darkness Execution, CAA is a type of touch action.

Spoiler:

Bold are new moves.

Also tomorrow (1/9) is the release of UVM12! The conclusion at last, and hopefully the SECs will be added to the card database soon (really wanna know their abilities). We should also be able to see SSB Gogeta's UA w/ Hit & Jiren, as well as the S/T transfer w/ V4, God Bird in practical play, etc. Haven't been this excited since SEC SS4 GT Goku's SA showcase.

[MisteryOne]

When should we expect videos showcasing the story dialogue? I'm really curious about the ending of the Dark Realm part (not so much about Universal Conflict since I'm even more sure now that Gogeta will just win).

According to Goresh:

New SEC cards seem to be SS2 Gohan, Gogeta UM (with Jiren and Hit in the background), Black Hole Mechikaboola and Gogeta UM with V4. Also they apparently named the new attack Gogeta used against Broly "Stardust Explosion".

The fact that they repeated Gogeta twice is amusing and funny, but the art looks damn good. I'm kind of diging they push V4 as some type of counterpart to him.

??? Why is there 2 Gogetas? That seems... really redundant...

Indeed, he was already part of the previous SEC set and on this very same set there are two URs who can transform into him... But I guess they are doing their best to hype him up without giving him a new power up.

[Dark_Tzitzimine]

I did not see that Gogeta Blue and V4 card coming. I guess is a taste of what we can expect from Big Bang Mission and the team up of Time Patrol and Super characters. And yeah, is amazing that V4 is treated as an equal to Gogeta Blue.

I do find amusing that he has been a summon for both Gogetas.

[ankokudaishogun]

SS2 Gohan, CAA is transformation from SS to SS2, SA: Father-son Kamehameha

Father-Son Kamehame-ha Full Power, actually
(yeah, yeah, minor nitpicking)

[Rakurai]

SS2 Gohan, CAA is transformation from SS to SS2, SA: Father-son Kamehameha

Father-Son Kamehame-ha Full Power, actually
(yeah, yeah, minor nitpicking)

You’re right, missed that last part (assumed it was just immediately FSK w/o a 2nd thought.)

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SEC SS2 Gohan actually looks pretty rad, they've updated his character model, his transformation sequence, and his SA.

https://twitter.com/WsutsoK1XWo15Lb/sta ... 8688133121

https://twitter.com/WsutsoK1XWo15Lb/sta ... 2432498691

[Steven Bloodriver]

Spoiler:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Z6YmDf13TNw

[Dark_Tzitzimine]

Wow, the Gogeta V4 team-up is so underwhelming. Mainly because is pretty much the same as the Xenos team-up.

What a disappointment.

[Majin Demigra]

https://youtu.be/iIJDnE660Lk