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Post by Makaioshin » Thu Dec 17, 2020 10:35 am

XV refuses to die. This is his first appearance in a console fighting game in 10 years. I guess a long time coming since he is referenced already in clothing and customization for the Namekian avatar. I got excited because I thought he was for the other game but in time...more moves to source. I wonder if they will give him the sort of spinning kick technique that the previous arena fighters gave him.

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Post by ZeroNeonix » Thu Dec 17, 2020 10:51 am

I wonder if they'll give him Thunder Flash Attack. It's exclusion in Legends was...a choice. I mean, did he ever even use a fire kick in the anime? Or was it in the Janemba movie? I don't know. All I know is the only special move of his that stuck with me after all these years is completely absent in Legends.

Cue Thunder Flash Pikkon announcement in Legends. lol

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Post by Matches Malone » Thu Dec 17, 2020 11:02 am

I wonder who else will be added ? maybe Super 13 and transformed Bojack ?

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Post by Makaioshin » Thu Dec 17, 2020 11:05 am

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Thu Dec 17, 2020 10:51 am
I wonder if they'll give him Thunder Flash Attack. It's exclusion in Legends was...a choice. I mean, did he ever even use a fire kick in the anime? Or was it in the Janemba movie? I don't know. All I know is the only special move of his that stuck with me after all these years is completely absent in Legends.

Cue Thunder Flash Pikkon announcement in Legends. lol
Fire Kick is the move he uses to swiftly defeated Cell in his debut. They did release a Thunder Flash Paikuhan as part of their anniversary celebration in like June. Panned release since he couldn't keep up with Vegetto. But yeah, since it is his finishing move it is expected as his ultimate here.

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Post by Gt91 » Thu Dec 17, 2020 3:42 pm

I can't believe it ... really.
I like Pikkon but i'm tired of these DLCs...

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Post by sunsetshimmer » Thu Dec 17, 2020 4:00 pm

Is he free DLC or paid? Just curious because seeing such character as paid DLC wouldn't make sense to me, it's just weird. I mean he is not relevant enough to be paid DLC, yet relevant enough to deserve being added to this game long time ago lol.
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Post by Koitsukai » Thu Dec 17, 2020 4:11 pm

I do like Paikuhan and it's nice to see him, but you gotta wonder, why include irrelevant characters when you have so many current, relevant fighters that have been overlooked?

Kale
Caulifla
Toppo
Dyspo
Armoured Broly
Merus
Moro
7-3
Saganbo
Omen Goku
Vermoud (yes, a hakaishin that in the anime has "fought" Beerus and Jiren)

I know there's no VA and all for the Moro arc characters, but still, they included Vados and she has literally never done anything but a neck chop KO. If this game is in its dying breaths(it should be, we can't still play a 2016 game in 2021), then go ahead and give us Moro or someone that is not from 1992.

Besides, I'm pretty sure Paikuhan's getting that Thunder Flash attack... and the default ultimate everybody gets. Mainly because he doesn't have another attack!

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Post by Grimlock » Thu Dec 17, 2020 4:23 pm

Koitsukai wrote:
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it should be, we can't still play a 2016 game in 2021,
Huh... Why not?

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Post by ZeroNeonix » Thu Dec 17, 2020 5:08 pm

If he's free, I won't complain. But this does strike me as odd. I could have seen them using Pikkon as a way to hype up the next game, the way Future Gohan was used for promotions for XV2. But yeah, they still plenty of new characters they could use, like base form and/or Wrathful form Broly. They may hold off on manga-exclusive characters like Moro, until they get an animated version. At least that's what I expect. You never know with these guys.

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Post by sunsetshimmer » Fri Dec 18, 2020 8:37 am

Koitsukai wrote:
Thu Dec 17, 2020 4:11 pm
I do like Paikuhan and it's nice to see him, but you gotta wonder, why include irrelevant characters when you have so many current, relevant fighters that have been overlooked?

Kale
Caulifla
Toppo
Dyspo
Armoured Broly
Merus
Moro
7-3
Saganbo
Omen Goku
Vermoud (yes, a hakaishin that in the anime has "fought" Beerus and Jiren)

I know there's no VA and all for the Moro arc characters, but still, they included Vados and she has literally never done anything but a neck chop KO. If this game is in its dying breaths(it should be, we can't still play a 2016 game in 2021), then go ahead and give us Moro or someone that is not from 1992.

Besides, I'm pretty sure Paikuhan's getting that Thunder Flash attack... and the default ultimate everybody gets. Mainly because he doesn't have another attack!
I think Pikkon is still better pick than all of characters you just mentioned except for UI Omen, Moro and perhaps Toppo. Kefla is already in game and Caulifla and Kale were not relevant enough to be their own characters when Kefla is there i think. Besides, Paikuhan is kinda fan favourite character. For some reason people like him a lot and asked for him for a long time as well.
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Post by TobyS » Fri Dec 18, 2020 3:02 pm

Chaozu deserved to be in before Paikuhan and tk and dodon ray like moves are already in game, as are all his clothes. He's at least a canon character.

21 would be better as she's more recent more women and tied into existing lore and it's a video game to videogame move.

Even ozotto would be better as he's back in heroes.
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Pikon is so random and non canon and isn't connected to any of the other non canon characters either....
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Post by Matches Malone » Fri Dec 18, 2020 3:09 pm

TobyS wrote:
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Chaozu deserved to be in before Paikuhan.
Who ? is that a pokemon ? why would one of those be in a DB game ? :wink:

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Post by ZeroNeonix » Fri Dec 18, 2020 3:32 pm

The thing is, if the character is not popular, no one will care. But if they are very popular, then it's like, "Why didn't you wait until XV3?" Surely, XV3 can't be too far away now. It seems kinda strange to me that they're still doing this.

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Post by Matches Malone » Fri Dec 18, 2020 4:00 pm

ZeroNeonix wrote:
Fri Dec 18, 2020 3:32 pm
The thing is, if the character is not popular, no one will care. But if they are very popular, then it's like, "Why didn't you wait until XV3?" Surely, XV3 can't be too far away now. It seems kinda strange to me that they're still doing this.
I've said for the longest time that XV3 was a sure thing, but if it's not the next game and XV2 continues to get support, then maybe it really isn't happening.

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Post by dualist » Fri Dec 18, 2020 10:42 pm

ZeroNeonix wrote:
Fri Dec 18, 2020 3:32 pm
The thing is, if the character is not popular, no one will care. But if they are very popular, then it's like, "Why didn't you wait until XV3?" Surely, XV3 can't be too far away now. It seems kinda strange to me that they're still doing this.
I don't think XV3 is about the number of characters, at least I hope not. It needs to be about a complete revamp in game play and a massive leap from XV2. With so much focus on online play and raids, they need to improve the story mode, maybe include Heroes content since it all came from DBO anyway, and make the story mode coop as well. I think with a game out like FighterZ that got a ton of respect in the fighting game world, XV needs to shift its focus a bit towards open world style co op gameplay with PvP being more secondary.

I appreciate the updates and don't want to complain about a company providing updates to a game for 4+ years. We should be greaful for that! But the game needs to be better. Seeing how support characters function in Kakarot made the cpu in XV look worse than ever.

If XV3 is to come, I'm hoping for a vast improvement and not just new characters

This game is supposed to be about your character saving history, but it just feels like a rehash of the DBZ story with minor changes
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Post by ZeroNeonix » Fri Dec 18, 2020 11:17 pm

dualist wrote:
Fri Dec 18, 2020 10:42 pm
I don't think XV3 is about the number of characters, at least I hope not. It needs to be about a complete revamp in game play and a massive leap from XV2. With so much focus on online play and raids, they need to improve the story mode, maybe include Heroes content since it all came from DBO anyway, and make the story mode coop as well. I think with a game out like FighterZ that got a ton of respect in the fighting game world, XV needs to shift its focus a bit towards open world style co op gameplay with PvP being more secondary.

I appreciate the updates and don't want to complain about a company providing updates to a game for 4+ years. We should be greaful for that! But the game needs to be better. Seeing how support characters function in Kakarot made the cpu in XV look worse than ever.

If XV3 is to come, I'm hoping for a vast improvement and not just new characters

This game is supposed to be about your character saving history, but it just feels like a rehash of the DBZ story with minor changes
Well, yeah. There are things more important than characters. But I'm thinking of this from a marketing standpoint. It's easier to get people pumped for a new character than for revamped gameplay mechanics. The latter is more naunced, whereas a character is instantly understood. If XV3 is announced, and they show off Wrathful form Broly or something, that will instantly get people hyped.

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Post by dualist » Sat Dec 19, 2020 5:23 pm

ZeroNeonix wrote:
Fri Dec 18, 2020 11:17 pm
dualist wrote:
Fri Dec 18, 2020 10:42 pm
I don't think XV3 is about the number of characters, at least I hope not. It needs to be about a complete revamp in game play and a massive leap from XV2. With so much focus on online play and raids, they need to improve the story mode, maybe include Heroes content since it all came from DBO anyway, and make the story mode coop as well. I think with a game out like FighterZ that got a ton of respect in the fighting game world, XV needs to shift its focus a bit towards open world style co op gameplay with PvP being more secondary.

I appreciate the updates and don't want to complain about a company providing updates to a game for 4+ years. We should be greaful for that! But the game needs to be better. Seeing how support characters function in Kakarot made the cpu in XV look worse than ever.

If XV3 is to come, I'm hoping for a vast improvement and not just new characters

This game is supposed to be about your character saving history, but it just feels like a rehash of the DBZ story with minor changes
Well, yeah. There are things more important than characters. But I'm thinking of this from a marketing standpoint. It's easier to get people pumped for a new character than for revamped gameplay mechanics. The latter is more naunced, whereas a character is instantly understood. If XV3 is announced, and they show off Wrathful form Broly or something, that will instantly get people hyped.
That's true, the popular characters will get the attention. But this is also game heavily influenced on creation. When it's all said and done, I just want a game that's as close to DBO as possible. Lol
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Post by The S » Sun Dec 20, 2020 7:25 am

I didn't expect anybody else after Chronoa, so that gives me hope for Kaiōshin, Gero, and 19 finally.
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Post by TobyS » Sun Dec 20, 2020 7:46 am

The S wrote:
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I didn't expect anybody else after Chronoa, so that gives me hope for Kaiōshin, Gero, and 19 finally.
I always assume Kaioshin is missing it's weird he is.

Wish we had him Kibito Chaozu and the mid forms of Buu cell Freeza. 19 and 20...

Hope XV3 plugs all those gaps and gives us a bunch more pikon was so damn random.
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