What would Norihito Sumitomo’s weakest tracks be?

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What would Norihito Sumitomo’s weakest tracks be?

Post by GhostEmperorX » Sat May 30, 2020 1:11 am

The most popular of those that you consider lacking, as well as the not-so-popular ones.
After finally understanding how the original DB score is the standard one, I’d like to see why many don’t approve of Sumitomo and his material for the more recent DB productions. And how it compares.

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Re: What would Norihito Sumitomo’s weakest tracks be?

Post by TheGreatness25 » Fri Jun 12, 2020 10:24 am

I don't know about his weakest tracks, but I found his music in Kai to be a bit too synthy. It kind of reminded me of the Faulconer score in the way that it sounded and was laid out. Like, I wouldn't be surprised to hear those tracks in the original dub. I felt like "Strong Rival" played three times per episode lol And I liked it, but in watching Kai, that theme is all over!

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Re: What would Norihito Sumitomo’s weakest tracks be?

Post by Dbzfan94 » Mon Jun 22, 2020 8:37 pm

The Pilaf theme in Super

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Re: What would Norihito Sumitomo’s weakest tracks be?

Post by GhostEmperorX » Thu Jun 25, 2020 4:26 pm

TheGreatness25 wrote:
Fri Jun 12, 2020 10:24 am
I don't know about his weakest tracks, but I found his music in Kai to be a bit too synthy. It kind of reminded me of the Faulconer score in the way that it sounded and was laid out. Like, I wouldn't be surprised to hear those tracks in the original dub. I felt like "Strong Rival" played three times per episode lol And I liked it, but in watching Kai, that theme is all over!
So TFC ultimately wasn’t that good in terms of music?

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Re: What would Norihito Sumitomo’s weakest tracks be?

Post by TheGreatness25 » Sun Jun 28, 2020 1:33 pm

GhostEmperorX wrote:
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So TFC ultimately wasn’t that good in terms of music?
Eh. You can listen to it on YouTube, I believe -- they had the album up. It's not that it was terrible, it just didn't live up to the Yamamoto nor Kikuchi scores in my opinion. It sounded much cheaper. Actually, I felt like aside from the earlier Great Saiyaman stuff, it really resembled Super's score (if I'm not mistaken, they did actually share music). But the character themes in particular were very, very synthy. And yeah, I wasn't lying when I said that "Strong Rival" was sprinkled all over it.

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Re: What would Norihito Sumitomo’s weakest tracks be?

Post by Trouser » Mon Jun 29, 2020 6:43 am

I only like "Super Saiyan Three", "Impatience", "No More" and "Trapped Between Past and Present" from Kai. The rest is pretty meh, same with Super until Future Trunks Arc came in. Battle of Gods and Resurrection of F' were pretty bland too with few exceptions like "Earth's End" and "Peacful Earth". :)
His best work is, imo, Broly's soundtrack. But overall I'm not very fond of his work on Dragon Ball. Kikuchi is still the best.

But if I had to choose the WORST one there is then it's "Omen of Victory" from Super.
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Re: What would Norihito Sumitomo’s weakest tracks be?

Post by MCDaveG » Wed Jul 01, 2020 8:47 am

For me, Sumitomo is weak overall. Only themes I remember from him is Goku Black theme and when he makes orchestrated version of opening themes, that have really distinct and rich melodies...
Compared to Kikuchi - he had a rich and really distinct sound, you always recognize his signature.
Akihito Tokunaga - really synth heavy music with lot of eastern influences. Bland at first glance, but I do reconize lot of his themes, years after I saw DBGT.
Yamamoto the black sheep - he was great at layering the orchestra and arrangement and overall, his sound was rich and pretty distinct... altough the music was plagiarized.

I was never fan of Sumitomo, don't know why, but since Battle of Gods, his music sounds bland, not fitting the series.
He uses lot of synths that I would expect in EDM rather than in soundtrack with silly melodies.
And I think that if he will opt for orchestral sound rather than electronic, his compositions would not sound that over the top silly.
I have feeling that I am watching a children's toy, snack or whatever commercial rather than martial arts show.
His soundtrack for Kai Final Chapters, coming right after Yamamoto is outright atrocious and the worst work of music, I have heard in Dragon Ball on par with Plan To Eradicate the Saiyans.

Why they hired Sumitomo in the first place? For example new works of Saint Seyia no longer use Seiji Yokoyama, who sadly passed away three years ago even in new works before, don't know why and they hired Toshihiko Sahashi (Full Metal Panic, Gundam Seed).
Altough, he sounds really different and it was difficult to get acustomed to it, I think he fits the show and does it justice.

For brief examples, compare this to Sumitomo, that's completely different sound and synth use and I dare say level:

Gundam Seed:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eITkIi1dces
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pCB0UPhD-Fw

Saint Seiya Soul Of Gold:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JGDeTejxUx8&t=108s

Saint Seiya Santia Sho:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZrAx_umcqc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IgMgTucszvY

His Saint Seiya work is really close to original and that is something I would have expected from anyone coming to compose for Dragon Ball.

But frankly as a veteran fan since 90's, Sumitomo's work for me is kinda crap, because there is really nothing nostalgic about it as a fan of the original work.
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