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Re: General Yamamoto Rip off thread

Post by DB1984 » Wed May 04, 2016 12:50 pm

VegettoEX wrote:That's just not an accurate assessment. The Kai pieces that WE have at least documented are for good reason: they're note-for-note/progression-for-progression the same as the blockbuster films they're stripped from. If it wasn't such a legitimate concern, Toei would not have - for example - done the interstitial edit specifically removing "The Ebb and The Flow" from episode 56 before doing the full Kikuchi swipe.

It is absolutely not just a case of "tenuous at best" connections with these Kai tunes. These are not just some short chord patterns. I mean, the random "clank" noises in the Terminator song happen at the exact same point in "A New Foe Rears His Head" beyond all the other stuff that's being played as-is.
VegettoEX, I Got a couple of questions about the new "Godly Best" collection that came out:

1) What was the main reason many of the insert songs were not included? I don't think it was just because of Yamamoto, because several of the songs he arranged (arranged, not composed) are on the collection.

2) In the liner notes, is he still credited as an arranger on several songs?

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Re: General Yamamoto Rip off thread

Post by Amaterasu » Tue Jun 28, 2016 9:57 am

Does anyone here know if Yamamoto plagiarized from something with this soundtrack too? It's one of my favourite pieces, it would be too bad if he stole it as well.

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Re: General Yamamoto Rip off thread

Post by DB1984 » Thu Jun 30, 2016 7:25 pm

It's common among composers to rip-off themselves, I think.

In this example, both songs were composed by Michiharu Hasuya.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KXWRk2nVn8Y

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Re: General Yamamoto Rip off thread

Post by kei17 » Thu Jun 30, 2016 8:21 pm

Amaterasu wrote:Does anyone here know if Yamamoto plagiarized from something with this soundtrack too? It's one of my favourite pieces, it would be too bad if he stole it as well.

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Re: General Yamamoto Rip off thread

Post by DB1984 » Fri Jul 01, 2016 12:10 pm

And like all other classical composers, Mozart's work is Public Domain, so this should be safe.

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Re: General Yamamoto Rip off thread

Post by CashmanX » Sun Sep 11, 2016 12:34 am

Another day, another rip off....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQZ51udFtrg (Mahler Das Lied von der Erde)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1UMC6poNRNQ (Suite 2, Super butouden 2 final battle arranged)
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Re: General Yamamoto Rip off thread

Post by DB1984 » Sun Sep 11, 2016 12:41 am

CashmanX wrote:Another day, another rip off....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQZ51udFtrg (Mahler Das Lied von der Erde)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1UMC6poNRNQ (Suite 2, Super butouden 2 final battle arranged)
Like I said above, shouldn't this be Public Domain? Gustav Mahler's works were published before 1923. Everything after 1923 is copyrighted, unless said rights were not renewed.

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Re: General Yamamoto Rip off thread

Post by CashmanX » Sun Sep 11, 2016 11:58 am

DB1984 wrote:
CashmanX wrote:Another day, another rip off....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQZ51udFtrg (Mahler Das Lied von der Erde)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1UMC6poNRNQ (Suite 2, Super butouden 2 final battle arranged)
Like I said above, shouldn't this be Public Domain? Gustav Mahler's works were published before 1923. Everything after 1923 is copyrighted, unless said rights were not renewed.
It's the principle of the matter here.

*Just realized he was beaten to the post two years ago by Kei17*
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Re: General Yamamoto Rip off thread

Post by DB1984 » Sun Sep 11, 2016 12:48 pm

I see.

Well, time for a "What If?".

As hardcore DB fans know, Yamamoto started his career as merely an arranger. What if he had just stuck with arranging, and never moved on to composing?

I think he'd still be involved with the franchise, and be involved with the latest DBZ movies and DB Super.

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Re: General Yamamoto Rip off thread

Post by Jinzoningen MULE » Sun Sep 11, 2016 1:55 pm

DB1984 wrote:I see.

Well, time for a "What If?".

As hardcore DB fans know, Yamamoto started his career as merely an arranger. What if he had just stuck with arranging, and never moved on to composing?

I think he'd still be involved with the franchise, and be involved with the latest DBZ movies and DB Super.
Probably, but he'd also be borderline irrelevant.
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Re: General Yamamoto Rip off thread

Post by simtek34 » Sun Sep 11, 2016 10:55 pm

Does anyone know what song "Destiny" from dragon ball Kai is ripped of of?
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Re: General Yamamoto Rip off thread

Post by jjgp1112 » Wed Sep 14, 2016 11:02 pm

Sheesh, damn near all of my favorite Kai tracks were blatantly ripped off from elsewhere (several from the Mortal Kombat Movie soundtrack, for example). I know ripoffs in general are extremely common in TV show soundtracks, oftentimes to compensate for not being able to secure licensed tracks, but this guy just took it to a new level. Especially those Kai tracks like the Avatar and Terminator stuff that were just note for note plagiarism.
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Re: General Yamamoto Rip off thread

Post by DB1984 » Thu Sep 15, 2016 10:34 am

Wonder if this is the only scandal to haunt Dragon Ball in real life?

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Re: General Yamamoto Rip off thread

Post by RoarkVegeta » Wed Nov 30, 2016 2:07 am

These sound a bit close, but nothing crazy. My apologies if anyone has posted this.

Captain & Tennille - Love Will Keep Us Together (1975) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0aU57V6VBW0

Destiny's Determination (Super Butoden 3) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lIbeJuywyrU (Starts at :25)

There are a few other songs from Super Butoden 2 and 3 that use this same thing, and it even sounds a lot like Kimi Ga Hero.

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Re: General Yamamoto Rip off thread

Post by damn » Tue Feb 14, 2017 2:24 pm

Not Yamamoto but

This at the beginning
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_UfLeOLA3jQ

Sounds like this @ 00:49
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QpZQGHV4wSk

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Re: General Yamamoto Rip off thread

Post by damn » Wed Feb 15, 2017 10:31 am

Nobody wants to comment on this?
damn wrote:Not Yamamoto but

This at the beginning
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_UfLeOLA3jQ

Sounds like this @ 00:49
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QpZQGHV4wSk

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Re: General Yamamoto Rip off thread

Post by MarcBigleague » Thu Feb 16, 2017 2:10 pm

damn wrote:Nobody wants to comment on this?
damn wrote:Not Yamamoto but

This at the beginning
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_UfLeOLA3jQ

Sounds like this @ 00:49
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QpZQGHV4wSk
That's just a simple 4-bar chord progression.

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Re: General Yamamoto Rip off thread

Post by Shiyonasan » Fri Sep 15, 2017 11:17 am

Amazing how I'm still discovering new Yamamoto ripoffs after all these years.

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Re: General Yamamoto Rip off thread

Post by KBABZ » Fri Sep 15, 2017 1:39 pm

Not sure if it has ever been brought up, but Dragon Soul sounds a heck of a lot like Dan Dan of GT:

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I've always wanted to know what the base for The Braveheart Challenges the Strong was, as that's my favourite of the Kai stuff.

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Re: General Yamamoto Rip off thread

Post by Shiyonasan » Sat Sep 16, 2017 1:14 pm

KBABZ wrote:I've always wanted to know what the base for The Braveheart Challenges the Strong was, as that's my favourite of the Kai stuff.
I've heard some people compare it to the Buoy Base Galaxy music from Super Mario Galaxy. I can hear some similarities between those two, but not enough to definitively say that The Braveheart Challenges the Strong came specifically from that song.

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