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Re: General Yamamoto Rip off thread

Post by Attitudefan » Sat Apr 19, 2014 7:22 pm

dbgtFO wrote:After recently watching TFS' version of Revenge of Cooler one track played when Krillin & co. search for Goku and Gohan reminded me of a DBZ Budokai piece.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SslPTXSYmp4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bjWKHsD ... 3C0E2463A0

Particularly the first part of the Budokai track, though I guess there aren't enough similarities for this to be a rip-off.
Not a rip off. Those are some basic notes and right after the first dun dun dun DUN, they sound nothing alike. Plus, Budokai's is faster. Honestly, anyone could play those 4-5 notes and then call it a rip off when in no way are the compositions the same. Even the instruments are all different. I'd pass this track as not a rip off.

This however, is inexcusable!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0lHHhadihAw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GHnfX1RmZX8

The plagiarism is blatant! How could this song go unnoticed for so long? :P :P
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Re: General Yamamoto Rip off thread

Post by dbgtFO » Sun Apr 20, 2014 5:53 pm

Attitudefan wrote:
dbgtFO wrote:After recently watching TFS' version of Revenge of Cooler one track played when Krillin & co. search for Goku and Gohan reminded me of a DBZ Budokai piece.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SslPTXSYmp4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bjWKHsD ... 3C0E2463A0

Particularly the first part of the Budokai track, though I guess there aren't enough similarities for this to be a rip-off.
Not a rip off. Those are some basic notes and right after the first dun dun dun DUN, they sound nothing alike. Plus, Budokai's is faster. Honestly, anyone could play those 4-5 notes and then call it a rip off when in no way are the compositions the same. Even the instruments are all different. I'd pass this track as not a rip off.
Yeah you're right, but as soon as I heard that track I just thought of DBZ Budokai.
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Re: General Yamamoto Rip off thread

Post by Naruto6583 » Thu Apr 24, 2014 3:34 am

um how can he plagerize head chala when he arranged the original version?
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Post by Gonstead » Thu Apr 24, 2014 3:45 am

Naruto6583 wrote:um how can he plagerize head chala when he arranged the original version?
It was a joke.
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Re: General Yamamoto Rip off thread

Post by Attitudefan » Thu Apr 24, 2014 3:50 am

So no more chala on dbz anymore since he arranged it? Toei got rid of all his other stuff.
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Re: General Yamamoto Rip off thread

Post by Naruto6583 » Thu Apr 24, 2014 9:22 am

I'm pretty sure head chala is still in the japanese dub of the dvds
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Re: General Yamamoto Rip off thread

Post by Attitudefan » Fri Apr 25, 2014 12:25 am

Naruto6583 wrote:I'm pretty sure head chala is still in the japanese dub of the dvds
I was joking haha! Though, I didn't realize Yamamoto composed Chala (or did he just arrange it?)
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Re: General Yamamoto Rip off thread

Post by jpdbzrulz4sure » Fri Apr 25, 2014 12:28 am

Attitudefan wrote:I was joking haha! Though, I didn't realize Yamamoto composed Chala (or did he just arrange it?)
Yeah, he just arranged it. The composition was by Chiho Kiyo'oka.
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Re: General Yamamoto Rip off thread

Post by Naruto6583 » Fri Apr 25, 2014 1:04 am

interesting note the composer of one piece arranged makafushigi adventure
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Re: General Yamamoto Rip off thread

Post by bkev » Fri Apr 25, 2014 2:03 am

jpdbzrulz4sure wrote:
Attitudefan wrote:I was joking haha! Though, I didn't realize Yamamoto composed Chala (or did he just arrange it?)
Yeah, he just arranged it. The composition was by Chiho Kiyo'oka.
That might explain why FLOW's arrangement for Battle of Gods was so different. I hope not, I prefer the original.
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Re: General Yamamoto Rip off thread

Post by Attitudefan » Fri Apr 25, 2014 2:12 am

bkev wrote:
jpdbzrulz4sure wrote:
Attitudefan wrote:I was joking haha! Though, I didn't realize Yamamoto composed Chala (or did he just arrange it?)
Yeah, he just arranged it. The composition was by Chiho Kiyo'oka.
That might explain why FLOW's arrangement for Battle of Gods was so different. I hope not, I prefer the original.
Yeah me too! Yamamoto should have never became a composer due to his habit of plagiarism but his arrangements are extremely good! I was showing a friend of mine his plagarism today and he agreed with me that some of his 'remakes' were better than the originals.

He is a great arranger and it is a shame he did what he did. His arrangements of his (plagiarized) songs are just excellent ear candy, ChaLa, Battle Point Unlimited, any of his game bgms (the list goes on)! When they removed Yamamoto from composing (and arranging it seems) the quality of music has dropped off a lot. Something about his fusion of jazz, rock, heavy metal, and symphonic sounds is incredible really. Despite his plagiarism, I will, to this day, enjoy what he worked on because of how it sounds. Great inspirational music, great music to pump me up, great music to just sit back and listen to, or a great nostalgic trip down memory lane.

I fault him as a composer, not an arranger.
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Re: General Yamamoto Rip off thread

Post by Krax » Thu May 01, 2014 9:12 am

Anyone find the originals to these songs?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=omJtw_ZOcEQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7FSVaN3liP0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQm572YCH_w (0:12 onward)

This one seems to take some "inspiration" from Super Buu's theme.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vTIk_5pwQEo (from 1:10)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H3CVK3Ud2jA (game) <--Pay attention to the bass


Also, I've heard this one in DBZA. Sounds like it's from Kai


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=II86yuO-KL0 (from Butouden 2)

http://youtu.be/h4L2dFoUysU?t=5m26s ( from DBZA )


Edit:

Noticed that someone said this pages ago but the song "Like a Burning Wind" resembles another song called "The Alien" by Slash's Snakepit. Same with "12AM Shuffle" from Budokai 3 and "Ain't Life Grand" from the same band.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zPAFYHklYL4 (original)

http://youtu.be/j8H8h7g8Es4?t=35s (copied part)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aCNme5PK0-s (original)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zdOAOferScI (Yamamoto)

I like how Yamamoto thinks stealing from a small, underrated band would also go unnoticed.
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Re: General Yamamoto Rip off thread

Post by Attitudefan » Thu May 01, 2014 10:45 pm

kei17 wrote:
CashmanX wrote:Apparently Yamamoto ripped off Cowboy Bebop aswell....

(About 2:15 minutes in) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8pxjXAsOJX8

(About 1:00 minute in) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QG8bBJyZrQI
And that was arranged in Kai as well.

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Re: General Yamamoto Rip off thread

Post by Krax » Wed May 21, 2014 11:41 pm

MalikArcanum wrote:His work on DBZ: Legends seems to be pretty original, & I'd consider that his best, personally.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=teKjc4FQHRY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uSR-4eKxhGg#t=26s
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4XIOWjHokHU#t=1m41s
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ixw6HOuHlwo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eVwiYLfAz5M

But, as EX said, these may be ripoffs as well, & I've just never heard the originals.

First one - Basically Imperfect Cell's theme from Butouden 1 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8uSg4CDAUgs

Second one - http://youtu.be/mMCLETpKlA8?t=35s

Third one - Again, Imperfect Cell's theme from Butouden 1.

Fourth - I have absolutely no idea.

Fifth - You can hear hints of Mr. Satan's theme from Ultimate Battle 22 starting at 0:48 http://youtu.be/eVwiYLfAz5M?t=48s -----> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vVyPU-N4bHI


Also just so you know:

Goku's SSJ3 theme from UB22: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qVG07DbFJwY is this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZblwNwkunYk
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Re: General Yamamoto Rip off thread

Post by Morgil » Sun Jun 22, 2014 6:06 pm

I hope this is the right thread to be asking this in, but i have a question about Yamamoto's non-DBZ work.

On the retrospective article on the main site, it briefly mentions that in addition to DBZ, he had also worked on some of the Super Sentai series. Now, i'm a pretty big fan of Power Rangers, and just recently i decided to check out a couple of Sentai episodes on youtube just out of curiosity. I came across this episode: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a3diNOYwSIk?t=12m20s Right at about the 12:20 mark, there is a music cue that clearly resembles The Imperial March from Star Wars. So does that mean this is a series that Yamamoto worked on? Or is there another guy out there ripping music off from American movies?
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Re: General Yamamoto Rip off thread

Post by Krax » Sun Aug 24, 2014 5:30 am

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RSeldKAqM-w Toto - Stranger in Town

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Al2cVwk0sv8 Cell Games Theme from Budokai
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Post by DarkPrince_92 » Sun Aug 24, 2014 5:14 pm

Krax wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RSeldKAqM-w Toto - Stranger in Town

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Al2cVwk0sv8 Cell Games Theme from Budokai
Nice find. That's so weird.
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Re: General Yamamoto Rip off thread

Post by CashmanX » Wed Aug 27, 2014 10:26 pm

Just, Oh my god. Yamamoto actually ripped off a famous classical composer. Schubert, of all people. That's like ripping off Mozart. Did he really think people wouldn't notice?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ISmkQZ7LevU -Super Butouden 3 "Evil"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S9fHa6caCMc -"Erlkönig" - Franz Schubert
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Re: General Yamamoto Rip off thread

Post by TheAldella » Thu Aug 28, 2014 5:17 pm

CashmanX wrote:That's like ripping off Mozart. Did he really think people wouldn't notice?
Sure took them a while XD
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Re: General Yamamoto Rip off thread

Post by matt0044 » Thu Aug 28, 2014 8:46 pm

Why is this such a common thing in Japan?
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