Opinions on Pieces of Music

[Lord Exor]

This is a sort of game. State your opinions on the piece of Dragon Ball music designated by the above poster. I'll start off:

Faulconer Productions - Cell's Slow Theme

[cRookie_Monster]

Cell's Slow theme served it's purpose well enough for talking and such. Never really got excited over it.
(I didn't work on this one, otherwise I wouldn't comment)

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Battle Theme:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rwu1QFlX6do

[penguintruth]

Battle Theme:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rwu1QFlX6do

I love the various peaks and valleys in this piece, how it paints an emotional picture, instead of working only in superficial motion.

What about this piece of GT music? BGM #48.

[songohan619]

Battle Theme:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rwu1QFlX6do

I love the various peaks and valleys in this piece, how it paints an emotional picture, instead of working only in superficial motion.

What about this piece of GT music? BGM #48.

I quite like it. It sounds like it could have fitted in Kai.
Next:DrageSjel:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6aPnhQNtNmA

[SolarBlade52]

It's OK. They are on-key, but they could have had a little bit more feeling to it.

How about this BGM that pretty much defines Dragon Ball GT as a whole?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ghSa8maCbCo

[SonEric84]

It's OK. They are on-key, but they could have had a little bit more feeling to it.

How about this BGM that pretty much defines Dragon Ball GT as a whole?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ghSa8maCbCo

That variation of DAN DAN is one of the most moving pieces of music I've ever heard. They are all quite well-done but this is just beautiful, it really makes you feel at peace. I only wish it was used more in the series.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NvPkca4vYuI

[Lord Exor]

It's good music mind you, but music heralding the appearance of the Shadow Dragons should evoke something ominous. The emotions I pick up from this piece are more along the lines of ethereal fascination. The event should be horrifying, not awe-inspiring.

Nathan Johnson - Vegeta vs. Zarbon

[penguintruth]

It's good music mind you, but music heralding the appearance of the Shadow Dragons should evoke something ominous. The emotions I pick up from this piece are more along the lines of ethereal fascination. The event should be horrifying, not awe-inspiring.

Nathan Johnson - Vegeta vs. Zarbon

Kind of bland and barely even present. It kind of reminds me of music you might hear in an arcade fighting tournament game, and not one of the better ones. Just sort of there to follow the basic action going on. It does seem at times some actual melody peeks through, only to be shut out by obnoxious noise.

Shunsuke Kikuchi - Kyoufu no Ginyu Tokusentai

[cRookie_Monster]

Shunsuke Kikuchi - Kyoufu no Ginyu Tokusentai

The first half sounds like something out of "Tom and Jerry". The second half sounds like typical 80's action cartoon music. Jazz band playing darkish riffs with some weak electric guitar thrown in to make it sound "rock". Also has corny vibraslap and other weird sounds to either represent that this is a "kids" show or maybe it's a cultural thing...I dunno. The end result is a strangely quirky sound that a lot of fans have come to associate with DBZ. I made an attempt at redoing the second part in a more modern way...which I was kinda happy with, but in the end never finished it because it lacked personality:

http://morganstudios.com/Attempt1.mp3

Next piece:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W3-67x4pic8

[penguintruth]

Shunsuke Kikuchi - Kyoufu no Ginyu Tokusentai

The first half sounds like something out of "Tom and Jerry". The second half sounds like typical 80's action cartoon music. Jazz band playing darkish riffs with some weak electric guitar thrown in to make it sound "rock". Also has corny vibraslap and other weird sounds to either represent that this is a "kids" show or maybe it's a cultural thing...I dunno. The end result is a strangely quirky sound that a lot of fans have come to associate with DBZ. I made an attempt at redoing the second part in a more modern way...which I was kinda happy with, but in the end never finished it because it lacked personality:

http://morganstudios.com/Attempt1.mp3

Next piece:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W3-67x4pic8

Wow, your attempt certainly did lack personality. Kikuchi's piece was vibrant and suspenseful. You sucked all the character out of it and stripped it to superficial elements.

Anyway, the piece you linked to wasn't one of the stronger DBZ songs. It kind of blends in with a lot of the other Hinorobu songs and has little distinctiveness to it. The guitar work is good, at least.

What about Piccolo Daimao No Kyoufu?

[Ringworm128]

What about Piccolo Daimao No Kyoufu?

Very creepy yet intimidating perfect for Piccolo Daimao when hes not really in action. Next up http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=soMmkUc- ... 961608959E

[Turtle Marked Stone]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=soMmkUc- ... 961608959E

Fun thread!

This sounds very undragonball to me. It sounds like a rip from Sonic CD or some other video game. I mean it's okay, it's fun and jazzy but I don't hear Dragon Ball when I hear that song. As an aside where is this from anyway? Maybe if I had some context behind it this drastic style change would make more sense to me.
Edit: Apparently it's from the OVA. Should have guessed.

Also as much as I don't agree with your assessment I still enjoyed your attempt Morgan.

One o' my personal favorite dub songs.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zKs_joz2eg

[cRookie_Monster]

Hmm Super Buu, that's an interesting one(another one I had nothing to do with, I'm not even sure who did arranged it tbh, it was after I left). The Harmonic minor usage makes it sound a bit Darth Vaderish, especially with the frequent movement down to the bvi chord. The triplets in the melody give it that fanfare kinda sound which is the "Super" part of it. The swinging backup gives it a fun adventuresome feel at the same time. The thing that grates me about it is the guitar synth. The power chords sound kinda a cool at first, but then the fact that it's the same power chord sample over and over again beats down and you realize its canned. I've been asked to remix this a lot...I've thought about it...not sure a real guitar would sound much better honestly for the melody. It would still come off a little too bright for my taste. I'd probably swap the leads for a punchy french horn sound and redo the low guitar chords with real chunky guitar. Would be heavier and more epic at the same time.

Oh and there's heavy usage of diminished harmonies, which is something I've criticized the Japanese score of over doing. Here it's used in a more classical way, making it less corny. The opening reminds me of the Toccata and Fugue kinda usage...which actually kicks #$*&# the way Bach does it (best diminished usage ever) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_FXoyr_FyFw
Harmonic minor just breeds diminished stuff naturally...though Williams avoided it in the Imperial March. I bet the composer was ripping on Bach deliberately actually...heh...makes me think it was Bruce all the way.

Would be nice if it had more quiet parts that built back up.

Next Up (Shuki Levy):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c1P9t2WALUg

[Lord Exor]

Ah Shuki Levy. I have no qualms or misgivings about his score, it served its purpose well as incidental music. My only concern with his score is its seeming lack of discernible character themes or motifs--but that's a problem endemic to the Japanese score as well. This particular piece reminds of the Bowser's Castle theme from Mario Kart 64 with its similar utilization of a synth choir, although possessing a very loose melody.

Ah yes, I should probably get to my personal favorite:

Faulconer Productions - Dr. Gero's Theme

[Taku128]

Loud and brash. Every instrument seems to be trying to one-up the others in terms of volume, making it hard to discern any individual part, and there's not much of a tune to it. Very repetitive, very hard on the ears.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fdNug80HN84

[penguintruth]

Loud and brash. Every instrument seems to be trying to one-up the others in terms of volume, making it hard to discern any individual part, and there's not much of a tune to it. Very repetitive, very hard on the ears.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fdNug80HN84

It sounds like movie trailer music, or music for a training montage. I find the electronic sounds obstructive to the chorus most of the time, but the chorus isn't that great, regardless. And was some guy speaking/chanting something? That was extra annoying.

What about "Son Gohan and Piccolo"? A little cutesy, I know, but I thought it suited the scenes where it was used.

[Coycoy88]

What about "Son Gohan and Piccolo"? A little cutesy, I know, but I thought it suited the scenes where it was used.

It reminds me of the original Dragonball anime, back when I used to watch it on Toonami. I'm not as familiar with the original Japanese soundtrack as most of you here, but actually like this song. It sounds really up-beat and happy to me. Would be perfect for an adventure-esque scene imo.

Next Up - Faulconer Productions: Vegeta's Theme - http://www.4shared.com/audio/EHRxCcSJ/_ ... _Them.html

[Turtle Marked Stone]

Next Up - Faulconer Productions: Vegeta's Theme - http://www.4shared.com/audio/EHRxCcSJ/_ ... _Them.html

Another popular theme that I enjoy! I feel like this song got across the stunned, heart sinking feeling that the rest of the fighters must have had upon Vegeta's transformation. It's really ominous but it's not loud or brash. It's like Vegeta has this smug peace of mind about his new ability. Of course we have the person on this forum who made this very song so hopefully he won't tell me I'm full of shit!

How aboooout this one? Mark Menza's SSJ3 Goku Vs. Jenemba theme.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tNRMAXo8 ... re=related

[cRookie_Monster]

Next Up - Faulconer Productions: Vegeta's Theme - http://www.4shared.com/audio/EHRxCcSJ/_ ... _Them.html

Another popular theme that I enjoy! I feel like this song got across the stunned, heart sinking feeling that the rest of the fighters must have had upon Vegeta's transformation. It's really ominous but it's not loud or brash. It's like Vegeta has this smug peace of mind about his new ability. Of course we have the person on this forum who made this very song so hopefully he won't tell me I'm full of shit!

How aboooout this one? Mark Menza's SSJ3 Goku Vs. Jenemba theme.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tNRMAXo8 ... re=related

Hey Actually I only doodled some guitar leads over that theme at some later date (Androids Saga I think?). It was written before I even started working for Faulconer. That link has the original juxtaposed with the version with my leads, which is what's on the CD.


Anyway, I'll take a stab at the Menza piece. I've never heard it or even seen that movie but I can appreciate the music as a villain "theme". It's more of collection of identifiable sounds. Pretty gnarly ones, out there. I happen to like really nasty stuff like that, dissonances and weirdness. The thing that strikes me as off is the guitar. It's really bizarre to hear heavy guitar riffs like that without some kind of kick drum under it. The bass on the speakers I'm using is non-existent but it sounds like there isn't even any bass guitar underpinning those riffs. I think the simple addition of bass + kick drum would have made it a lot stronger and less like an unfinished piece made in a home studio. He doesn't have to put in a full beat, just some support. Would be kinda like the opening to "Shortest Straw" by Metallica:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4oZPTlI3MEo (hmm there's floor toms in there too)
Haha but even in that album it's widely known they undermixed the bass guitar...(their next album changed production processes to make up for it)
The punchy string sound could have been chosen better too. Not real enough for me.

Anyway, overall like with an annoyance. I could see it working well for a villain. I wonder if it was too heavy though or not...depends on how loud they mixed it I guess. Big heavy chords coming in like that would be pretty jarring.

Next:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q22yqUmuQdM

[songohan619]

Next Up - Faulconer Productions: Vegeta's Theme - http://www.4shared.com/audio/EHRxCcSJ/_ ... _Them.html

Another popular theme that I enjoy! I feel like this song got across the stunned, heart sinking feeling that the rest of the fighters must have had upon Vegeta's transformation. It's really ominous but it's not loud or brash. It's like Vegeta has this smug peace of mind about his new ability. Of course we have the person on this forum who made this very song so hopefully he won't tell me I'm full of shit!

How aboooout this one? Mark Menza's SSJ3 Goku Vs. Jenemba theme.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tNRMAXo8 ... re=related

Hey Actually I only doodled some guitar leads over that theme at some later date (Androids Saga I think?). It was written before I even started working for Faulconer. That link has the original juxtaposed with the version with my leads, which is what's on the CD.


Anyway, I'll take a stab at the Menza piece. I've never heard it or even seen that movie but I can appreciate the music as a villain "theme". It's more of collection of identifiable sounds. Pretty gnarly ones, out there. I happen to like really nasty stuff like that, dissonances and weirdness. The thing that strikes me as off is the guitar. It's really bizarre to hear heavy guitar riffs like that without some kind of kick drum under it. The bass on the speakers I'm using is non-existent but it sounds like there isn't even any bass guitar underpinning those riffs. I think the simple addition of bass + kick drum would have made it a lot stronger and less like an unfinished piece made in a home studio. He doesn't have to put in a full beat, just some support. Would be kinda like the opening to "Shortest Straw" by Metallica:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4oZPTlI3MEo (hmm there's floor toms in there too)
Haha but even in that album it's widely known they undermixed the bass guitar...(their next album changed production processes to make up for it)
The punchy string sound could have been chosen better too. Not real enough for me.

Anyway, overall like with an annoyance. I could see it working well for a villain. I wonder if it was too heavy though or not...depends on how loud they mixed it I guess. Big heavy chords coming in like that would be pretty jarring.

Next:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q22yqUmuQdM

A quite chilling song, but gets overused, and because of that, I'm sick off it.

Next:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fgbz1yMg ... re=related