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Re: One more time: Z Music suggestions :)

Post by cRookie_Monster » Wed Jul 24, 2013 5:00 pm

Gonstead wrote:Oh I know that. It's just that version (at least to me) is more memorable.

EDIT: How bout a new Saiyaman theme?
It definitely brings out the idea better. Slow things down enough and it all sounds like background.
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Post by Lord Exor » Thu Jul 25, 2013 4:26 am

I feel like your Gero theme is one of those under-appreciated tracks that are rarely ever lauded as a result of their obscurity. A new theme in that style would be amazing.
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Re: One more time: Z Music suggestions :)

Post by theawesomepossum777 » Thu Jul 25, 2013 12:55 pm

cRookie_Monster wrote:For King Piccolo, I'm thinking more of a classic orchestral kind of score, starting with bass clarinet maybe? kinda like the Japanese score would do. Honestly, I mainly know King Piccolo from DBZ flashbacks, so I need to go back and watch some DB. Any suggestions on shows to watch or sounds anyone else would like to hear?

Hmm, looking back through my old work, it might start something like the first half of this: http://soundclick.com/share.cfm?id=7460080 and progress into something like this: http://soundclick.com/share.cfm?id=7882079
That actually sounds really good! I can imagine the 2nd part when Piccolo finally becomes young. Starting moody and mysterious; and following up to triumphant evil works well with King Piccolo.

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Post by thaman91 » Thu Jul 25, 2013 8:25 pm

Can you make something similar to "Yamcha meets Droids"? I really liked that one, especially that ending.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cRTIpR4-ACo

Also, here are some more themes to take inspiration from (did you arrange any of these?):
"King Cold" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_M4czJaBEBs
"Vegeta Gets Bean" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qz7vA2BoKX0
"Back to the Lab" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mwDPTjMwFR0
"Road to the Chamber" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6TPplrPylZ0
"Uub in the Tournament" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vj0H1bwEeco
"Boogieman" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9SJ-6LvmfsA

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Post by cRookie_Monster » Sun Jul 28, 2013 11:38 pm

I'm about 50% done with the King Piccolo theme. It's fun because it sounds fairly different than anything I've ever done before :) I'll update again when it's finished :evil:
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Post by Gonstead » Tue Jul 30, 2013 5:31 pm

Awesome! So totally excited!

As for a suggestion, do you think you could produce a Cell track based on the music compositons by Kikuchi heard in this vid? I've lately taken a real liking to the Cell era tracks - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QhwCsvN3D24
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Re: One more time: Z Music suggestions :)

Post by some_weirdGuy » Thu Aug 08, 2013 1:12 pm

Hey there Scot. You've done(and are continuing to do) truly awesome stuff, in and outside of dragonball Z (particularly liked, to give one in a different style to what you usually make, 'Night Sky', made me feel some nostalgia for the computer game Diablo, tristram's theme XD) awesome to see you have a hangout here on a dbz forum, during dbz you made some of my favourite compositions in the show, and many truly iconic pieces.

For my suggestion, perhaps a slow theme, similar to the beginning of thesuper buu theme(though not sure how you feel about that since it isn't yours) and some of the slower parts in your deadzone theme. I could see something pretty awesome coming from that, though i can understand if your enigma song (well, about 50 seconds in) satisfied any slower-paced guitar shredding itches you might have had (great work there btw) for the moment.

Or for something a little looser in terms of suggestion, you made imperfect cell bad ass and distinctive, and his perfect theme stood as equally iconic and awesome. Why not try giving semi-perfect cell a specific theme that stands out in the same way? Or give frieza a more dedicated 'theme' (while there were elements, i feel a lot of the frieza themes kinda came from the general ambience of namek rather than the tyrant himself, would be interesting to see your take on him for a straight 'frieza theme', or maybe more specifically a monstrous theme to go with his monstrous third form).

Anyway, can't wait to hear what you're gonna do with Piccolo.
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Re: One more time: Z Music suggestions :)

Post by Ringworm128 » Thu Aug 08, 2013 11:06 pm

If I were to make two more suggestions it would be a theme for Dr Wheelo that's either an old fashion "WOO WEE WOO" UFO SCI FI piece or a bombastic orchestral piece like this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FfOqqEj_ip0 or somehow a mix of both. And a theme for Tao Pai Pai and Crane Hermit that's sort of like one of Gen's themes from Street Fighter. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OUS-fxZCQw8 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gvLbClCQlOA

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Re: One more time: Z Music suggestions :)

Post by cRookie_Monster » Sat Aug 10, 2013 9:03 am

King Piccolo!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EdfL-agrxmQ

I'll probably take on Perfect Cell next, though my idea is very vague right now.

Actually, I'm going to score a short trailer for a friend next, but then Cell :)

Feel free to keep suggesting things :) I'm listening!
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Re: One more time: Z Music suggestions :)

Post by Black_Liger » Sat Aug 10, 2013 2:28 pm

cRookie_Monster wrote:King Piccolo!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EdfL-agrxmQ

I'll probably take on Perfect Cell next, though my idea is very vague right now.

Actually, I'm going to score a short trailer for a friend next, but then Cell :)

Feel free to keep suggesting things :) I'm listening!

Wow that was REALLY GOOD!!! Loved it :D
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Post by Gonstead » Sat Aug 10, 2013 5:56 pm

Totally awesome! Sounds almost like something Funimation would have used if they re-scored the original Dragon Ball.
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Post by cRookie_Monster » Sun Aug 11, 2013 2:06 am

Gonstead wrote:Totally awesome! Sounds almost like something Funimation would have used if they re-scored the original Dragon Ball.
Thanks :) It had a rough start on Youtube, but I added some explanations about the character and things seem to be going better now. I think people may not get how slow, big, and old King Piccolo was at first...and don't like that I depicted that musically. Just a hunch anyway, maybe it just sucks^^. I'm glad you guys like, I feel more sure you know the character. I had to go back and watch most of the saga to really get the right picture, and if I had to do that...I'm probably not alone.
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Re: One more time: Z Music suggestions :)

Post by some_weirdGuy » Tue Aug 13, 2013 8:55 am

Awesome work, I've already listened to it many times over these last few days XD,

Also this made me realise a good suggestion:

You did so well with the 'first' demon king, you should do one for dbz's 'real' makaioshin, demon king Dabura.
He was under-appreciated but i always really liked him, design, powers, voice, he was one cool cat. I know he was basically used as a plot device to show off fat buu's strength/deadliness really, but i kinda think it would have been cool to see him get more of the limelight.
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Post by MalikArcanum » Sun Aug 25, 2013 9:24 pm

I, personally, would love to hear a new Perfect Cell theme. Something very industrial, & mechanical sounding,to emphasize that he is the ultimate android. Maybe some influence from things like this, @ 1:13:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CwgRaVkv3Ww


While I love his motif in the show, I always felt it was lacking the mechanical vibe you worked into his Imperfect themes, in particular the percussion. It wasn't sinister enough. I always felt that kind of thing fit him more than siren-esque synth leads.

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Post by Lord Exor » Sun Aug 25, 2013 10:47 pm

MalikArcanum wrote:I, personally, would love to hear a new Perfect Cell theme. Something very industrial, & mechanical sounding,to emphasize that he is the ultimate android. Maybe some influence from things like this, @ 1:13:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CwgRaVkv3Ww


While I love his motif in the show, I always felt it was lacking the mechanical vibe you worked into his Imperfect themes, in particular the percussion. It wasn't sinister enough. I always felt that kind of thing fit him more than siren-esque synth leads.
The Terminator-esque industrial/mechanical sound was used for Dr. Gero's motif actually. If I recall, Mike decided upon a clean synth lead for Perfect Cell to emphasize his perfection--whereas Imperfect Cell was granted dirtier, grungier ones.
If I were to make two more suggestions it would be a theme for Dr Wheelo that's either an old fashion "WOO WEE WOO" UFO SCI FI piece
I believe Nathan Johnson has you covered there. His score for World's Finest was rife with it.
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Lord Exor wrote:
MalikArcanum wrote:I, personally, would love to hear a new Perfect Cell theme. Something very industrial, & mechanical sounding,to emphasize that he is the ultimate android. Maybe some influence from things like this, @ 1:13:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CwgRaVkv3Ww


While I love his motif in the show, I always felt it was lacking the mechanical vibe you worked into his Imperfect themes, in particular the percussion. It wasn't sinister enough. I always felt that kind of thing fit him more than siren-esque synth leads.
The Terminator-esque industrial/mechanical sound was used for Dr. Gero's motif actually. If I recall, Mike decided upon a clean synth lead for Perfect Cell to emphasize his perfection--whereas Imperfect Cell was granted dirtier, grungier ones.
If I were to make two more suggestions it would be a theme for Dr Wheelo that's either an old fashion "WOO WEE WOO" UFO SCI FI piece
I believe Nathan Johnson has you covered there. His score for World's Finest was rife with it.
Yup, that distinction between the perfect and imperfect cell sounds was actually a mandate directly from Funimation. They specified a grungier sound for imperfect and a cleaner sound for Perfect. I thought the synth lead sound Mike chose for Perfect Cell was a pretty cool idea :) I might do something similar. I'm finishing off a score for a friend soon and then I'll probably start playing around with Perfect Cell theme ideas. My vision on that is still kinda blurry, so I might just start trying out a lot of sounds until something clicks. I could see a clean lead with heavier background. That's essentially what Mike did actually, he had synth guitars/and a rock band underneath that synth lead.
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Re: One more time: Z Music suggestions :)

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Lord Exor wrote:
MalikArcanum wrote:I, personally, would love to hear a new Perfect Cell theme. Something very industrial, & mechanical sounding,to emphasize that he is the ultimate android. Maybe some influence from things like this, @ 1:13:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CwgRaVkv3Ww


While I love his motif in the show, I always felt it was lacking the mechanical vibe you worked into his Imperfect themes, in particular the percussion. It wasn't sinister enough. I always felt that kind of thing fit him more than siren-esque synth leads.
The Terminator-esque industrial/mechanical sound was used for Dr. Gero's motif actually. If I recall, Mike decided upon a clean synth lead for Perfect Cell to emphasize his perfection--whereas Imperfect Cell was granted dirtier, grungier ones.

Oh don't get me wrong, Perfect Cell's theme is one of my favorite motifs of the Funimation tracks. I just thought it would be cool to hear something a bit more menacing.

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Post by Gonstead » Mon Aug 26, 2013 8:35 pm

I wouldn't mind if there was some Front-Line Assembly thrown into the inspiration for some (Imperfect) Cell music.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UyXi-ObqX8I
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Re: One more time: Z Music suggestions :)

Post by MalikArcanum » Mon Aug 26, 2013 11:17 pm

Gonstead wrote:I wouldn't mind if there was some Front-Line Assembly thrown into the inspiration for some (Imperfect) Cell music.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UyXi-ObqX8I


Oh god, yes.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d3rR-Oi0aEE

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Post by cRookie_Monster » Tue Aug 27, 2013 2:45 pm

Hmm, I just got an idea...that I might have done in the first place if I had written both themes. Imperfect Cell -> ??? -> Perfect Cell should be a progression of a single theme, evolving. Wow, did I just commit to three themes?? I like the Front line Assembly and could hear elements surviving the whole process.

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