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Please, tell me I'm wrong about Sumitomo...

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Post by MarCas92 » Fri May 15, 2015 6:25 pm

ShinGaijin wrote:I'm crazy, or... ? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oy9yjwBUdPo
Wow! Good find. Very fishy. But unless more pieces like this are found, I think we can just call it a coincidence. A really, really, really strange and unfortunate coincidence. At least Yamamoto had like 20 pieces like this, whereas Sumitomo only has 1 that we know of so far.

Luckily, t's not similar enough to call it straight up plagiarizing. But we should keep an eye on him. This really breaks my heart. I don't want this to be true.
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Post by ShinGaijin » Fri May 15, 2015 6:34 pm

MarCas92 wrote:
ShinGaijin wrote:This really breaks my heart. I don't want this to be true.
The same for me ! I love his style so much...his orchestral compositions are amazing.I don't want another scandal, but..it's..strange. O_o I hope you're right, really.
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Post by One_Instance » Fri May 15, 2015 6:36 pm

Wow, I love that movie and never caught this. Like MarCas92 said, it's probably a coincidence, though I never seem to be able to notice these until they're compared side by side.

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Post by Lord Beerus » Fri May 15, 2015 6:42 pm

ShinGaijin wrote:I'm crazy, or... ? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oy9yjwBUdPo
Yeah, it sounds like the riff was borrowed a bit from The Professional. But it's nothing that I would label as plagiarism, as it seems like just a coincidence.
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Post by MarCas92 » Fri May 15, 2015 6:43 pm

Okay. That's really bad. Now I'm REALLY skeptical.
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Post by Lord Beerus » Fri May 15, 2015 6:56 pm

MarCas92 wrote:
Okay. That's really bad. Now I'm REALLY skeptical.
Which track is that? Because I don't remember hearing in the official OST for Kai 2.0 that was released.

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Post by Doctor. » Fri May 15, 2015 6:58 pm

We really do not need another scandal :|

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Post by One_Instance » Fri May 15, 2015 10:48 pm

MrKaytos wrote:I've just heard Norihito Sumitomo's OST and well... one of his soundtracks reminds me Super Mario. I've just uploaded a video with the comparison:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQ7TTg59al4

What do you think? :O
This was over in the RF thread, I thought I would put it here since that's what this one is devoted to. I definitely see the similarity in this one just like the last two, but once again, I'm not sure I'd call it plagiarism.

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Post by Black_Liger » Sat May 16, 2015 1:53 am

If Toei wants to fix this they should get either Shiroh Sagisu or Yoshihisa Hirano for any DB related stuff.
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Post by dbboxkaifan » Sun May 17, 2015 12:13 pm

Wouldn't mind if Toei would fire him, cause his music was never as good as Kikuchi's (DB, Z), Yamamoto's (Kai, Games), Tokunaga's (GT), Takaki's (UB), Tenkaichi 2 Team or Kishi.

Yeah sure Yamamoto plagiarised too but at least he gave us awesome soundtracks for everything he worked on.
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Post by MCDaveG » Sun May 17, 2015 1:30 pm

So he's not only a bad composer, but plagiator as well. Muhahaha, what a surprise!! :lol:
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Post by Zenkai » Mon May 18, 2015 1:18 am

It's really not very similar, except for the first eight notes of what the string section plays in each.

The first clip made use of the harmonic minor scale, while Sumitomo did not.
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Post by Naruto6583 » Mon May 18, 2015 3:31 pm

I doubt that toei wants another scandal on there hands remember kai 2.0 was being done around the time battle of gods was in production. If he had infringed in any way he would've been fired way before bog hit theatres and kai would've been pushed back
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Post by MCDaveG » Tue May 19, 2015 7:06 am

Naruto6583 wrote:I doubt that toei wants another scandal on there hands remember kai 2.0 was being done around the time battle of gods was in production. If he had infringed in any way he would've been fired way before bog hit theatres and kai would've been pushed back
Well, Japanese are ignorant to what exists abroad if it doesn't fit with them. That was the case with Yamamoto as well.
So before someone from outside points that thing out, they won't know.
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Post by SuperSaiyanHedgehog » Wed Jun 10, 2015 10:41 pm

I can see it now... Dragon Ball Z Kai: Sumitomo Revival.
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Re: Please, tell me I'm wrong about Sumitomo...

Post by Black_Liger » Sat Jun 13, 2015 2:28 am

I was rocking to training with whis track and well I don't think it's a rip off, but this part

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YLvpPt8Nudo#t=0m32s

Sounds like, this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IPo9Gd2z6rI#t=4m21s

Listen to them with headphones, The backing of the track "training with whis" sounds very similar to the bass of "Black magic woman" last solo, and the guitar is kinda simliar, I don't think it's a rip off, it just sounds similar. and I love Santana anyways XD

All in all the tracks sounds very simliar for a little while, it's not the whole thing though.
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Re: Please, tell me I'm wrong about Sumitomo...

Post by TheRed259 » Sun Jun 14, 2015 5:55 pm

You guys should chill out. After Yamamoto, you think that everyone is stealing music.

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Post by Naruto6583 » Sun Jun 14, 2015 6:19 pm

TheRed259 wrote:You guys should chill out. After Yamamoto, you think that everyone is stealing music.
This is what I stated before I mean why would toei risk the chance of having another artist that infringed and go through all that crap again? I'm pretty sure they checked him out before kai and if he had infringed someone else would've composed for kai, bog, fnf, super etc.
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Re: Please, tell me I'm wrong about Sumitomo...

Post by Tobi555 » Thu Jul 30, 2015 8:06 am

Well then what about this?

From Kai

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qan_lAsbwOY

From Pandemic 2

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PZ1lPaXndPM

Literally side by side its exactly the same song :wtf:

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