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Bruce Faulconer: Lying Fraud Extraordinaire

Post by Ree » Thu Aug 27, 2015 9:47 pm

disclaimer: This is not a threead for how bad his music sucks, I dont mind it. I DO mind credit-taking frauds which he is one.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e_sXOquzxps

Basically he took credit for the entire soundtrack even though he did the least work. that, to me, is worse than ANY of his bad music combined.

Why do people call out Yamamoto but ignore Faulconer?
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Re: Why was Bruce Faulconer allowed to get away with this?

Post by EXBadguy » Thu Aug 27, 2015 11:02 pm

Cuz Falconer doesn't steal any music like Yammamoto did. And as for the vid, yeah, he should've gave those guys more credit, but then again, Falconer was still the guy behind it, so I'm not that bothered.
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Re: Why was Bruce Faulconer allowed to get away with this?

Post by Doctor. » Thu Aug 27, 2015 11:21 pm

EXBadguy wrote:Cuz Falconer doesn't steal any music like Yammamoto did. And as for the vid, yeah, he should've gave those guys more credit, but then again, Falconer was still the guy behind it, so I'm not that bothered.
What Faulconer did is arguably worse. Yamamoto stole music but at least the tracks that he made for Kai and etc, he still composed them himself. Faulconer gave no credit to other people's work.

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Re: Why was Bruce Faulconer allowed to get away with this?

Post by EXBadguy » Thu Aug 27, 2015 11:32 pm

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EXBadguy wrote:Cuz Falconer doesn't steal any music like Yammamoto did. And as for the vid, yeah, he should've gave those guys more credit, but then again, Falconer was still the guy behind it, so I'm not that bothered.
What Faulconer did is arguably worse. Yamamoto stole music but at least the tracks that he made for Kai and etc, he still composed them himself. Faulconer gave no credit to other people's work.
I thought it was only one person he forgot to give credit to. Unless I've misinterpreted. Meh, what do I care though. I'll just call it Morgan/Faulconer studios if that's the case. Yes, even if the guy left the studio, he still deserves the credit(even though Faulconer has that right to remove his name, it's still unethical), but the music won't stop being for what it is for people who grew with it, it's Faulconer himself, HE'S the problem, not the soundtrack.

I sure hope Faulconer or the publishing company who made the current CDs did was a mistake, becuz I'm giving him a benifit of a doubt, since I thought he was a good guy.

EDIT: Wait a minute, wasn't this one of the reasons why Faulconer was fired?
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Re: Why was Bruce Faulconer allowed to get away with this?

Post by Ree » Fri Aug 28, 2015 8:09 am

basically, Funimation got a new composer for GT and Bruce Faulconer didnt like that so he gave out email addresses for Funimation staff members and encouraged people to spam their inboxes. at least that's what I heard.
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Re: Why was Bruce Faulconer allowed to get away with this?

Post by Coycoy88 » Fri Aug 28, 2015 12:11 pm

There were 3 people Faulconer hired to 'ghost' compose for him for Dragonball Z. Scott Morgan, Mike Smith, and Julius Dobos. They are the ones that did 90% of the actual work, while he took all the official credit. Faulconer only personally did a select few tracks like "Ginyu Transformation", and the "Cell Jr's" theme. Iv'e got mad respect for these men, aha. :)
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Re: Why was Bruce Faulconer allowed to get away with this?

Post by UltimateHammerBro » Fri Aug 28, 2015 12:57 pm

So, basically, most of the US DBZ soundtrack was made by ghost composers? Wow.
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Re: Why was Bruce Faulconer allowed to get away with this?

Post by DoomieDoomie911 » Fri Aug 28, 2015 2:23 pm

So I guess it's not really fair to call it the "Bruce Faulconer score"...
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Re: Why was Bruce Faulconer allowed to get away with this?

Post by DragonDuck » Fri Aug 28, 2015 3:42 pm

Wasn't a lot of it credited to "Faulconer Productions"?
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Re: Why was Bruce Faulconer allowed to get away with this?

Post by Valerius Dover » Fri Aug 28, 2015 6:32 pm

Kind of irked that he still basically acts like he did it all himself even as of the most recent interview.

That being said, I believe his position basically gave him the right to take credit, but as EXBadguy pointed out, it was pretty unethical. It seems like he did a lot more supervising than actual composing, but only someone from the inside could really answer as to what he was doing when everybody else was composing. Scott Morgan has an account on here, so he would likely know.
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Re: Why was Bruce Faulconer allowed to get away with this?

Post by Lord Beerus » Fri Aug 28, 2015 7:05 pm

Coycoy88 wrote:There were 3 people Faulconer hired to 'ghost' compose for him for Dragonball Z. Scott Morgan, Mike Smith, and Julius Dobos. They are the ones that did 90% of the actual work, while he took all the official credit. Faulconer only personally did a select few tracks like "Ginyu Transformation", and the "Cell Jr's" theme. Iv'e got mad respect for these men, aha. :)
Seriously? That's... fucking awful. And, in my opinion, way worse than the shit Yammamoto pulled. :thumbdown:

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Re: Why was Bruce Faulconer allowed to get away with this?

Post by Ree » Fri Aug 28, 2015 7:38 pm

Yeah it is! I hope someday he stops making money off these tracks.
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Re: Why was Bruce Faulconer allowed to get away with this?

Post by UltimateHammerBro » Fri Aug 28, 2015 7:51 pm

The video is from 2009, but since I hadn't seen it before, I wonder if the next person who interviews him in the future would have the guts to ask him about this.
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Re: Why was Bruce Faulconer allowed to get away with this?

Post by Gonstead » Fri Aug 28, 2015 7:54 pm

Ree wrote:Yeah it is! I hope someday he stops making money off these tracks.
He can only make money on it nowadays if it airs on TV, which the last time it happened was only for the Toonami April Fools event back in 2012. He gets no royalties on any of the home releases due to the court case he lost against Funimation.
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Re: Why was Bruce Faulconer allowed to get away with this?

Post by Ree » Sun Aug 30, 2015 9:36 am

Then i guess he got what he deserved!
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Re: Bruce Faulconer: Lying Fraud Extraordinaire

Post by Kamiccolo9 » Sun Aug 30, 2015 2:07 pm

From what I understand, the credit for these songs goes to "Faulconer Productions," which all of these people worked for, not to Bruce Faulconer himself. So, legally, what he did isn't remotely comparable to Yamamoto's plagiarism.

Of course, I could be entirely wrong, but that's how I've been led to understand it. A bunch of people on the internet like to throw around labels like "the Faulconer music," or stuff like that, but it's not Faulconer's job to go in and correct everybody who is uninformed.

To my knowledge, Faulconer also doesn't go around claiming that he made all of the music, so calling him a "lying fraud" is somewhat uncalled for. Again, I may be mistaken.
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Re: Bruce Faulconer: Lying Fraud Extraordinaire

Post by Ree » Sun Aug 30, 2015 3:07 pm

Did you watch the video in my first post? it says recent releases only credit Bruce Faulconer which isnt fair. he has the legal right but it is still wrong. cRookie_Monster can tell you more.

no but it's his job to credit everybody who got him where he was.

How is it uncalled for? You can read the comments of the video to see he claims them as his own
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Re: Bruce Faulconer: Lying Fraud Extraordinaire

Post by Kamiccolo9 » Sun Aug 30, 2015 3:21 pm

Ree wrote:Did you watch the video in my first post? it says recent releases only credit Bruce Faulconer which isnt fair. he has the legal right but it is still wrong. cRookie_Monster can tell you more.

no but it's his job to credit everybody who got him where he was.

How is it uncalled for? You can read the comments of the video to see he claims them as his own
I don't take one source, even from a guy as cool as Scott (who comes across as a great guy, from the few times I've spoken to him on here), as definitive proof of anything.

I'm not going to take the word of only one of the parties involved to immediately judge the other party as being "in the wrong." I don't know enough about the situation, and, while I'm certainly indicating no offense towards Scott Morgan, he's not exactly in the right place to come across as unbiased.

And I'm extremely skeptical as to whether the "Bruce Faulconer" in the comments is actually Bruce Faulconer.
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Re: Bruce Faulconer: Lying Fraud Extraordinaire

Post by Ree » Sun Aug 30, 2015 3:34 pm

Maybe not but I see no reason how Scott Morgan would be wrong or lying about anything.

ignore the fake Bruce Faulconer, I meant comments from Morganstudios for more insight on it.
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Re: Why was Bruce Faulconer allowed to get away with this?

Post by Captain-Sora » Tue Sep 15, 2015 5:02 am

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EXBadguy wrote:Cuz Falconer doesn't steal any music like Yammamoto did. And as for the vid, yeah, he should've gave those guys more credit, but then again, Falconer was still the guy behind it, so I'm not that bothered.
What Faulconer did is arguably worse. Yamamoto stole music but at least the tracks that he made for Kai and etc, he still composed them himself. Faulconer gave no credit to other people's work.
No, Yamamoto copying other people's music is still the bigger evil of the two. Faulconer's just a case of ghostwriting.

It's lazy, comes off as sleazy, and one can empathize with the feelings of the other composers regretting what they signed up for, but it was still all handled legitimately from what I understand. It isn't a totally alien practice in the scoring business either. Even the likes of Hans Zimmer does this a lot if I recall correctly.

What Yamamoto did was commit plagiarism, which can infringe on certain rights and have consequences.

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