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There are 2 tracks from Super that didn't get released at all. The first one is from episode 52 when Gohan becomes Great Saiyaman and the second one is from episode 91 when Brianne de Chateau appears for the first time. https://youtu.be/oO1dB7IM8KM?t=78 https://youtu.be/H_uF7wkiWWY?t=9
Finally gave a full listen at the vol.2 ost... man... they really butchered Sumitom's score in the anime, amazing pieces weren't used or were cut up in length like "The Mortals' Hymn" or even had instrument removal like "Distant Journey". Some other pieces would have worked amazingly... Still the score in the anime has been excelent, but damn, the actual tracks on the CD are MILES better. Seriously guys, give it a listen.
There's room for only one snake, and one big boss.
I really enjoyed listening to the vol.2. It had much better pieces than vol.1, pity some of the great ones weren't used. Also, too bad they didn't release the Ultimate Battle Guitar version, I enjoyed that one a lot on the show.
Power levels establish tension and drama. People who care about them (well, people who care about them in a narrative) don't care about the big numbers or the fancy explosions. If you have character A who's so much above character B, who's the main character, you're gonna be left wondering how in the hell character B, the character we're supposed to care and root for, is going to escape the situation or overcome the odds. It makes us emotionally invested.
If character B doesn't escape the situation in a believable way that's consistent with previous events, then that emotional investment is gone. It was pointless tension, pointless drama made just to suck in the viewer. It has no critical value whatsoever. The audience is left believing that the author can just create whatever scenarios he wants and what happens to the characters is decided by whatever the author wants to happen, regardless of the events that happened in the story. Which, in fairness, is what happens, but the audience wants to be fooled. The audience wants to know that the world they're following has rules. That the world they're invested in isn't going to bend to external factors that are irrelevant to them.
An author can do whatever he wants with the characters, that's not false. But the author should also have the responsibility to make sure it fits in cohesively with the other events in the narrative he has created.
That original version vid is really low quality, the real one is absolutely amazing and better, that said, every pokemixr92 recreation is absolutely amazing as well, he always does an amazing job.
There's room for only one snake, and one big boss.
The track named "The Boy's Adventure" what was supposed to be? Something related to an episode about Goten and Trunks in the island that never aired?
Power levels are not just big numbers:
Spoiler:
Power levels establish tension and drama. People who care about them (well, people who care about them in a narrative) don't care about the big numbers or the fancy explosions. If you have character A who's so much above character B, who's the main character, you're gonna be left wondering how in the hell character B, the character we're supposed to care and root for, is going to escape the situation or overcome the odds. It makes us emotionally invested.
If character B doesn't escape the situation in a believable way that's consistent with previous events, then that emotional investment is gone. It was pointless tension, pointless drama made just to suck in the viewer. It has no critical value whatsoever. The audience is left believing that the author can just create whatever scenarios he wants and what happens to the characters is decided by whatever the author wants to happen, regardless of the events that happened in the story. Which, in fairness, is what happens, but the audience wants to be fooled. The audience wants to know that the world they're following has rules. That the world they're invested in isn't going to bend to external factors that are irrelevant to them.
An author can do whatever he wants with the characters, that's not false. But the author should also have the responsibility to make sure it fits in cohesively with the other events in the narrative he has created.
The track named "The Boy's Adventure" what was supposed to be? Something related to an episode about Goten and Trunks in the island that never aired?
They might have some little scene in the last two episodes, or maybe they were planning something and didn't go with it because of the two marathons during this "season."
I edited "A Secret Plan with One's Life On The Line" just like the original anime version (For the Beam Clash of Kale and Caulifla vs Pride Troopers) in my opinion it sounds MUCH more badass than with the long piano intro. Since it's a fan edit I firgured I could put it in here.
It is amazing just how hard Sumitomo dropped the synths on this second volume. They are like almost nowhere to be found. They were everywhere in the first volume.
What a fantastic soundtrack. If you told me that someone else composed the music for Super in the Future Trunks arc and onwards I would've believed you. It's such a huge improvement from what we got previously.
Also, 'Dream Tag Match' kicks so much ass. It's just behind 'The Final Death-Match' for my favourite track.
Super Saiyan Swagger wrote:It is amazing just how hard Sumitomo dropped the synths on this second volume. They are like almost nowhere to be found. They were everywhere in the first volume.
What a fantastic soundtrack. If you told me that someone else composed the music for Super in the Future Trunks arc and onwards I would've believed you. It's such a huge improvement from what we got previously.
Also, 'Dream Tag Match' kicks so much ass. It's just behind 'The Final Death-Match' for my favourite track.
Sumitomo has really improved since Kai and I enjoyed seeing his growth as well as the animators on Super.
Majinwarman So I'm 'evil', huh? Interesting."
A world without Dragon Ball is just meh.
There are some similar tracks like "The Wall Before One's Eyes" and "Strongarm Battle", I think my favorite is "Instant-Kill Battle" aka #17's theme
Power levels are not just big numbers:
Spoiler:
Power levels establish tension and drama. People who care about them (well, people who care about them in a narrative) don't care about the big numbers or the fancy explosions. If you have character A who's so much above character B, who's the main character, you're gonna be left wondering how in the hell character B, the character we're supposed to care and root for, is going to escape the situation or overcome the odds. It makes us emotionally invested.
If character B doesn't escape the situation in a believable way that's consistent with previous events, then that emotional investment is gone. It was pointless tension, pointless drama made just to suck in the viewer. It has no critical value whatsoever. The audience is left believing that the author can just create whatever scenarios he wants and what happens to the characters is decided by whatever the author wants to happen, regardless of the events that happened in the story. Which, in fairness, is what happens, but the audience wants to be fooled. The audience wants to know that the world they're following has rules. That the world they're invested in isn't going to bend to external factors that are irrelevant to them.
An author can do whatever he wants with the characters, that's not false. But the author should also have the responsibility to make sure it fits in cohesively with the other events in the narrative he has created.
Listening to the music in OST 2 of Super, I'm actually leaning on putting Sumitomo's later music of Super right next to Tokunaga's GT music as my favorite in the franchise. The battle music is so catchy and gets me pumped.
The Wall Before One's Eyes is probably my favorite Dragon Ball battle theme of all now, that saxophone is too good.
"I can't increase my ability through some kind of noisy transformation the way Frost and you Saiyans do. If I wanna become more lethal, I don't have the luxury of cutting corners, I just have to do it the old-fashioned way.
Combat is craft. What matters most is not raw power, but the skill by which you hone it."
Who else thought that the last ending song to Super should've been A 70cm Squared Window? Because when you really listen to it, specifically the full song, it actually sounds like the perfect final ending to this series. And it really sucks that it isn't. Thoughts?
Dragon Ball Gus wrote:Who else thought that the last ending song to Super should've been A 70cm Squared Window? Because when you really listen to it, specifically the full song, it actually sounds like the perfect final ending to this series. And it really sucks that it isn't. Thoughts?
But also speaking about the lyrics, you say?
Power levels are not just big numbers:
Spoiler:
Power levels establish tension and drama. People who care about them (well, people who care about them in a narrative) don't care about the big numbers or the fancy explosions. If you have character A who's so much above character B, who's the main character, you're gonna be left wondering how in the hell character B, the character we're supposed to care and root for, is going to escape the situation or overcome the odds. It makes us emotionally invested.
If character B doesn't escape the situation in a believable way that's consistent with previous events, then that emotional investment is gone. It was pointless tension, pointless drama made just to suck in the viewer. It has no critical value whatsoever. The audience is left believing that the author can just create whatever scenarios he wants and what happens to the characters is decided by whatever the author wants to happen, regardless of the events that happened in the story. Which, in fairness, is what happens, but the audience wants to be fooled. The audience wants to know that the world they're following has rules. That the world they're invested in isn't going to bend to external factors that are irrelevant to them.
An author can do whatever he wants with the characters, that's not false. But the author should also have the responsibility to make sure it fits in cohesively with the other events in the narrative he has created.
Xehanort wrote:I'm still very pissed off about the fact there's no instrumental version of Ultimate Battle (except for that shitty karaoke version)
I'm in total agreement. I was hoping it would have that version. In 110 the part where Goku walks towards Jiren while deflecting Toppo's blasts was great. The trumpets! Also the gentle and low sounds playing when the Zeno's are talking about Goku, it was so soothing. I was so mad when i hear that this specific instrumental version wasn't available.