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Re: Wow. The GT OST.

Post by SuperSaiyaManZ94 » Sat Aug 29, 2020 9:14 pm

Indeed, it definitely feels different in sound from Kikuchi's DB and Z tracks which lean more a classic martial arts/wuxia type vibe and with that said i feel Tokunaga's OST was a good score for GT and it's adventure based angle especially with the first arc though still good and fitting beyond that. The four ending songs are my favorites but "Don't You See" and "Sabitsuita Machine Gun" in particular are some great tracks with their trending toward a more pop or rock based direction, and as such really makes it stand as a worthy successor.
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Post by sangofe » Thu Sep 03, 2020 5:54 am

Goten_jr wrote: Sat Aug 08, 2020 5:26 pm One thing I don’t understand about GT is why are the Fights so much slower than all other Fights in DB History even Heroes and the Lack of Hand to Hand combat
Indeed. And the characters feel so weak. But that's another topic.

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Post by sangofe » Thu Sep 03, 2020 5:55 am

jamiljamtheman wrote: Fri Aug 07, 2020 8:17 pm I listened to the Japanese GT OST as standalone music for maybe the first time today. I’ve seen some episodes in Japanese or in the dub-with-sub-music mode, but never took the time to listen to just the music.

First of all, it’s incredible. But that’s a given and it’s why I chose to listen to it in the first place. I knew from what I’d heard.

But it’s also fascinating to me in a different way. The majority of the songs strongly evoke the feeling of a sweeping fantasy epic adventure. Never while listening did I think “this strongly fits with sci fi ki powered battling”. It’s like the whole soundtrack is meant to fit the black star dragon ball arc—the titular Grand Tour. Not that the pieces used in the later arcs don’t work—they definitely do, when watching the show. But when listening to the music by itself, it didn’t feel like it should.
I really like the music in the Bebi saga. I'm not sure exactly which one it is, but the "mystic" feeling music.

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Post by HakkaiBills93 » Thu Sep 03, 2020 6:27 am

sangofe wrote: Thu Sep 03, 2020 5:55 am
jamiljamtheman wrote: Fri Aug 07, 2020 8:17 pm I listened to the Japanese GT OST as standalone music for maybe the first time today. I’ve seen some episodes in Japanese or in the dub-with-sub-music mode, but never took the time to listen to just the music.

First of all, it’s incredible. But that’s a given and it’s why I chose to listen to it in the first place. I knew from what I’d heard.

But it’s also fascinating to me in a different way. The majority of the songs strongly evoke the feeling of a sweeping fantasy epic adventure. Never while listening did I think “this strongly fits with sci fi ki powered battling”. It’s like the whole soundtrack is meant to fit the black star dragon ball arc—the titular Grand Tour. Not that the pieces used in the later arcs don’t work—they definitely do, when watching the show. But when listening to the music by itself, it didn’t feel like it should.
I really like the music in the Bebi saga. I'm not sure exactly which one it is, but the "mystic" feeling music.
some "dan dan" variations sound very nice but the one i really regret not being able to find as bgm is the next episode preview theme

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Post by Underscore_Johny » Thu Sep 03, 2020 1:22 pm

HakkaiBills93 wrote: Thu Sep 03, 2020 6:27 am some "dan dan" variations sound very nice but the one i really regret not being able to find as bgm is the next episode preview theme
That's more than likely due to the fact that of all the tracks that have ever been ripped, the nep is one of the hardest to do, as it's exclusive to the Japanese version (GT rips are made using the 5.1 Green bricks audio, which doesn't have neps). You can find versions of it online but they have voices blended in with it. I've actually tried to rip it myself and you can have my version if you want, though its not perfect.

Version made using broadcast audio (so it's lossless) → https://mega.nz/file/iQphzLgR#bqsxTBhVn ... hD9mSXxDdU

Recreation I made by mixing the nep with the recap theme → https://mega.nz/file/mdgF2RiR#i5kjf0V7k ... YLAFnVEbks
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Post by HakkaiBills93 » Thu Sep 03, 2020 2:34 pm

Underscore_Johny wrote: Thu Sep 03, 2020 1:22 pm
HakkaiBills93 wrote: Thu Sep 03, 2020 6:27 am some "dan dan" variations sound very nice but the one i really regret not being able to find as bgm is the next episode preview theme
That's more than likely due to the fact that of all the tracks that have ever been ripped, the nep is one of the hardest to do, as it's exclusive to the Japanese version (GT rips are made using the 5.1 Green bricks audio, which doesn't have neps). You can find versions of it online but they have voices blended in with it. I've actually tried to rip it myself and you can have my version if you want, though its not perfect.

Version made using broadcast audio (so it's lossless) → https://mega.nz/file/iQphzLgR#bqsxTBhVn ... hD9mSXxDdU

Recreation I made by mixing the nep with the recap theme → https://mega.nz/file/mdgF2RiR#i5kjf0V7k ... YLAFnVEbks
i planned to also try using all stereo nep and by using several vocal isolation method and get "bgm gasp" when i'll have time but thanks for your attempt, the one you made using broadcast is the best attempt i have seen online, recreation using wrong stuffs don't really interest me but thanks

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Post by Underscore_Johny » Thu Sep 03, 2020 3:21 pm

HakkaiBills93 wrote: Thu Sep 03, 2020 2:34 pm i planned to also try using all stereo nep and by using several vocal isolation method and get "bgm gasp" when i'll have time but thanks for your attempt, the one you made using broadcast is the best attempt i have seen online, recreation using wrong stuffs don't really interest me but thanks
No problem. I was thinking of making a better version as well at some point as I believe I found a method to do so, might post it on here somewhere if I ever get it to work.
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Post by Underscore_Johny » Mon Sep 07, 2020 8:12 pm

Welp. I guess I was right. Had a go at actually making a clean rip of the nep and it turned out pretty well. Probably the best rip of it currently online in my opinion.

Here it is for those that want it (the method to make it is in the description): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZMbxEr8wQN8

Download (FLAC): https://mega.nz/file/TEAxnIoS#hIiIwMBDB ... AIdkUb4GaA
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Re: Wow. The GT OST.

Post by HakkaiBills93 » Tue Sep 08, 2020 10:50 am

Underscore_Johny wrote: Mon Sep 07, 2020 8:12 pm Welp. I guess I was right. Had a go at actually making a clean rip of the nep and it turned out pretty well. Probably the best rip of it currently online in my opinion.

Here it is for those that want it (the method to make it is in the description): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZMbxEr8wQN8

Download (FLAC): https://mega.nz/file/TEAxnIoS#hIiIwMBDB ... AIdkUb4GaA
not bad, did you use spleeter too, it also work for vocal isolation using ai? here a gui if you want to try https://makenweb.com/#spleetergui

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Post by HakkaiBills93 » Tue Sep 08, 2020 10:50 am

HakkaiBills93 wrote: Tue Sep 08, 2020 10:50 am
Underscore_Johny wrote: Mon Sep 07, 2020 8:12 pm Welp. I guess I was right. Had a go at actually making a clean rip of the nep and it turned out pretty well. Probably the best rip of it currently online in my opinion.

Here it is for those that want it (the method to make it is in the description): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZMbxEr8wQN8

Download (FLAC): https://mega.nz/file/TEAxnIoS#hIiIwMBDB ... AIdkUb4GaA
nice, not perfect but better than what i was expected, did you use spleeter too, it also work for vocal isolation using ai? here a gui if you want to try https://makenweb.com/#spleetergui

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Post by HakkaiBills93 » Tue Sep 08, 2020 10:51 am

Underscore_Johny wrote: Mon Sep 07, 2020 8:12 pm Welp. I guess I was right. Had a go at actually making a clean rip of the nep and it turned out pretty well. Probably the best rip of it currently online in my opinion.

Here it is for those that want it (the method to make it is in the description): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZMbxEr8wQN8

Download (FLAC): https://mega.nz/file/TEAxnIoS#hIiIwMBDB ... AIdkUb4GaA
nice, not perfect but better than what i was expected, did you use spleeter too, it also work for vocal isolation using ai? here a gui if you want to try https://makenweb.com/#spleetergui

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Post by Underscore_Johny » Tue Sep 08, 2020 1:19 pm

HakkaiBills93 wrote: Tue Sep 08, 2020 10:51 am nice, not perfect but better than what i was expected, did you use spleeter too, it also work for vocal isolation using ai? here a gui if you want to try https://makenweb.com/#spleetergui
The program I use is called ISSE, which allows you to directly separate vocals from the music manually (here's an idea of what I mean: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kz3bfxmqA-s). I had a look at the program you suggested and it acts much differently to this. I actually used something similar to it already, a site called acapella-extractor.com, and then edited the result in ISSE. I've never seen a program that separates lossless audio into so many different parts as Spleeter does though, so I'll probably be using it in the future so thank you for suggesting it. It should be easier to separate it in ISSE now that the instruments and vocals are split up. Here's a quick little edit I did of it in ISSE: https://mega.nz/file/3dhm1KLI#sn5Zr8Lf0 ... 3lbvypBsxw Some areas sound better than in my attempt, so I'll play around with it and see what I can do with it.
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Post by HakkaiBills93 » Wed Sep 09, 2020 2:13 am

Underscore_Johny wrote: Tue Sep 08, 2020 1:19 pm
HakkaiBills93 wrote: Tue Sep 08, 2020 10:51 am nice, not perfect but better than what i was expected, did you use spleeter too, it also work for vocal isolation using ai? here a gui if you want to try https://makenweb.com/#spleetergui
The program I use is called ISSE, which allows you to directly separate vocals from the music manually (here's an idea of what I mean: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kz3bfxmqA-s). I had a look at the program you suggested and it acts much differently to this. I actually used something similar to it already, a site called acapella-extractor.com, and then edited the result in ISSE. I've never seen a program that separates lossless audio into so many different parts as Spleeter does though, so I'll probably be using it in the future so thank you for suggesting it. It should be easier to separate it in ISSE now that the instruments and vocals are split up. Here's a quick little edit I did of it in ISSE: https://mega.nz/file/3dhm1KLI#sn5Zr8Lf0 ... 3lbvypBsxw Some areas sound better than in my attempt, so I'll play around with it and see what I can do with it.
Things is also that it seems that bgm volume lower each time someone talk usually, i noticed it while i was doing dragon quest screen title card bgm , bgm are louder when there is no vocals but lower when someone talk, so if you cancel vocals you also have to normalize all the bgm , when it talk too louder making the bgm impossible to hear it the result is awfull , of course it can't guess what can already be listened

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Post by Underscore_Johny » Wed Sep 09, 2020 10:53 am

HakkaiBills93 wrote: Wed Sep 09, 2020 2:13 am Things is also that it seems that bgm volume lower each time someone talk usually, i noticed it while i was doing dragon quest screen title card bgm , bgm are louder when there is no vocals but lower when someone talk, so if you cancel vocals you also have to normalize all the bgm , when it talk too louder making the bgm impossible to hear it the result is awfull , of course it can't guess what can already be listened
So you want it to be louder is that what you're saying? The problem with that is that all of the GT neps are like that, it's just a problem that comes with ripping unreleased music unfortunately. Some of the other GT tracks also have this issue. And I don't want to damage it by making it louder in some parts when we don't know what the original is supposed to sound like. The version I'm using seems to be the most consistent in terms of how loud it is across the whole track (I tested the other ones). Better to just leave it as it is I think. I make sure that the the audio is untouched when I remove the vocals anyway. You can always just make it louder yourself.

Also my second attempt is going quite well thanks to Spleeter. Thanks for that.
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Post by HakkaiBills93 » Wed Sep 09, 2020 12:10 pm

Underscore_Johny wrote: Wed Sep 09, 2020 10:53 am
HakkaiBills93 wrote: Wed Sep 09, 2020 2:13 am Things is also that it seems that bgm volume lower each time someone talk usually, i noticed it while i was doing dragon quest screen title card bgm , bgm are louder when there is no vocals but lower when someone talk, so if you cancel vocals you also have to normalize all the bgm , when it talk too louder making the bgm impossible to hear it the result is awfull , of course it can't guess what can already be listened
So you want it to be louder is that what you're saying? The problem with that is that all of the GT neps are like that, it's just a problem that comes with ripping unreleased music unfortunately. Some of the other GT tracks also have this issue. And I don't want to damage it by making it louder in some parts when we don't know what the original is supposed to sound like. The version I'm using seems to be the most consistent in terms of how loud it is across the whole track (I tested the other ones). Better to just leave it as it is I think. I make sure that the the audio is untouched when I remove the vocals anyway. You can always just make it louder yourself.

Also my second attempt is going quite well thanks to Spleeter. Thanks for that.
Nooo you didn't understood, i didn't ask you in any way to change anything, i just noticed generally that each time we use separator , the result have a volume lowering each time there was vocals and that's mostly cause bgm are lower in volume when it talk , also that when it talk too loud, bgm can't be hear so no software can recover something you cannot listen even with vocals

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Post by Underscore_Johny » Wed Sep 09, 2020 12:32 pm

HakkaiBills93 wrote: Wed Sep 09, 2020 12:10 pm Nooo you didn't understood, i didn't ask you in any way to change anything, i just noticed generally that each time we use separator , the result have a volume lowering each time there was vocals and that's mostly cause bgm are lower in volume when it talk , also that when it talk too loud, bgm can't be hear so no software can recover something you cannot listen even with vocals
Ok I think I get your saying. I haven't noticed any volume change after I ran it through Spleeter or ISSE, so I think my version is untouched. I'm actually using the version that I linked In my third post before this one, which has most of the vocals already removed so if there was any volume lossless as you said it would be minimal as there aren't enough vocals to cause it to decrease. I'm also opening up each individual stem in ISSE and manually separating the music from the vocals anyway so it's not losing any of the quality.
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Post by GhostEmperorX » Fri Sep 11, 2020 1:58 pm

Robo4900 wrote: Sat Aug 08, 2020 9:46 am It honestly really annoys me that Toei brought in Kenji Yamamoto for Kai instead of getting Akihito Tokunaga (who composed GT).
And the rest is history. Biggest blunder in OST choices, bar none.

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Post by Underscore_Johny » Fri Sep 11, 2020 6:46 pm

The GT nep is now done! Almost 100% of the vocals are now removed. This is the last time I'm doing this as I don't think my head can handle much more of this kind of editing, for a while at least.

Enjoy it everybody: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wx_a271MAwY

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Post by HakkaiBills93 » Sat Sep 12, 2020 10:03 am

Underscore_Johny wrote: Fri Sep 11, 2020 6:46 pm The GT nep is now done! Almost 100% of the vocals are now removed. This is the last time I'm doing this as I don't think my head can handle much more of this kind of editing, for a while at least.

Enjoy it everybody: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wx_a271MAwY

Download (FLAC): https://mega.nz/file/6YQBhAhb#yifkX0BPs ... _lDbh7z6CE
it's a little better yeah, congrats hope that one day a perfect version will be done or released

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Post by Underscore_Johny » Sat Sep 12, 2020 12:03 pm

HakkaiBills93 wrote: Sat Sep 12, 2020 10:03 am it's a little better yeah, congrats hope that one day a perfect version will be done or released
Thanks. It's a shame that this is the length that people have to go through just to listen to this soundtrack. If only the score could be released in full someday, for now we can only hope.
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