Episode #0201 (13 December 2009)

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Episode #0201 (13 December 2009)

Post by VegettoEX » Sun Dec 13, 2009 9:44 pm

Episode #0201 (download MP3) (rss feed)
26:30; 64 kbps, mono; 12.1 MB

Episode #0201! VegettoEX and Meri reflect on Episode 200 awesomeness, DBAF prank fallout from Argentina, and a Mafuba in the skies over Norway. After catching up on the news for the week, we answer an e-mail from a father looking to show some edited versions of the series to his children, and that wraps it up. Referenced sites:
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Post by JulieYBM » Sun Dec 13, 2009 10:33 pm

Yeah, FUNi's tapes post KidMark episodes were uncut only.


Nice little episode. I'm looking forward to the next Manga Review of Awesomness.


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Post by tinlunlau » Mon Dec 14, 2009 1:09 am

Wait a sec...
Jeff's a music guy?! I thought he was more of a boob guy.

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Post by SHINOBI-03 » Mon Dec 14, 2009 1:35 am

The father got a point.

Sure we get the uncensored versions of almost everything, but sometimes there are who don't want the unedited version. They want a censored version to share with others who are not old enough or not getting marked as perverts :lol: .

Like what I did to Elfen Lied.

I did a censored version of the show where I only edited the nudity to allow everyone who couldn't watch it before due to it.

And check out the responces I've recieved:
HOORAY FOR CENSORED!! Yeah seriously I started watching it uncensored and I was getting really bothered with so much nudeity I mean DANG! DOES IT EVER END!! So I bet this the first time your hearing someone thanking you for uploading this but, thank you :D
Thank you so much! i really wanted to show my brothers elfen lied, but there was too much nudity....
now i can!!! THANKS!
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Post by SHINOBI-03 » Mon Dec 14, 2009 1:48 am

Oh, and for those who havn't seen them, here are the space beams.

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Post by penguintruth » Mon Dec 14, 2009 2:12 am

If the unedited version was good enough for Japanese kids, it's good enough for North American kids. :p
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Post by bkev » Mon Dec 14, 2009 2:17 am

penguintruth wrote:If the unedited version was good enough for Japanese kids, it's good enough for North American kids. :p
Kai disagrees with you there, Mr. Penguintruth.
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Post by Herms » Mon Dec 14, 2009 2:23 am

penguintruth wrote:If the unedited version was good enough for Japanese kids, it's good enough for North American kids. :p
Well, not all kids are the same. If this guy thinks it's not appropriate for his own kids, I'd assume (and hope) that he has a good guage on what his children are and aren't ready for. It's not like he's trying to get the uncensored versions publicly banned or anything (or at least I gather from Mike's summary, still can't listen to the podcast *grumble* *grumble*).
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Post by samuraigundam » Mon Dec 14, 2009 3:32 am

Damn it, Piccolo!

What the HELL did I tell you about NOT firing your beam in Public?!

Oh, it was Boo?

( turns to Boo )

BOO!

What the HELL did I tell you about NOT turning planes into delicious chocolate candy?!

( stuffs mouth with delicious chocolate candy )

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Post by Dogasu » Mon Dec 14, 2009 7:56 am

I don't really see why people get so bent out of shape over non-pornographic nudity :roll:
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Post by NightShroud_BE » Mon Dec 14, 2009 7:58 am

volume 6 of the kanzenban already anounced? It just came out 3 days ago.
The dutch version won't be long after it.
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Post by linkdude20002001 » Mon Dec 14, 2009 9:03 am

Piccolo blew up the moon...! :shock:

About showing Dragon Ball to young kids... I think I wouldn't care if they saw it uncensored. I think it's stupid to raise kids to be the kind of people who'd think Dragon Ball is porn. I know I saw WAY worse than Dragon Ball when I was a kid (violence and bad language wise). I never really saw nudity other than my own self, but when I finally did (in a pool changing room), it was kind of traumatizing. It really did bother me. Luckily I'm fine with nudity now (and luckily I didn't develop some kind of hilarious fear of naked people :lol: ), but raising children to think nudity is evil or something is ridiculous.
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Post by Son Wukong » Mon Dec 14, 2009 9:44 am

''Shit! Piccolo Daimao is on the loose!''
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Post by The Time Traveller » Mon Dec 14, 2009 9:53 am

That's clearly Some guy in blue being sucked up into the Mafuba.

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Post by VegettoEX » Mon Dec 14, 2009 9:58 am

The Time Traveller wrote:That's clearly Some guy in blue being sucked up into the Mafuba.
So it's Pilaf's entrails floating through the sky. Got it.
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Post by NeptuneKai » Mon Dec 14, 2009 10:37 am

bkev wrote:
penguintruth wrote:If the unedited version was good enough for Japanese kids, it's good enough for North American kids. :p
Kai disagrees with you there, Mr. Penguintruth.
Apparently Japanese kids fear nudity and giant holes in someone's body as much as American kids now. Does that mean the original Dragonball is FOR MATURE ADULTS SUCH AS MYSELF!? :lol:
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Post by sangofe » Mon Dec 14, 2009 10:57 am

What the...?
a Mafuba is seen in the skies over Norway,
Is this from the AF "news scan" from Argentina?


Edit: Oh, I see what you did there as those pictures in this thread indeed look like a mafuba.

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Post by Innagadadavida » Mon Dec 14, 2009 12:57 pm

Dogasu wrote:I don't really see why people get so bent out of shape over non-pornographic nudity :roll:
It's remnants of the strong Christian values that were prevalent through the years of the formation of modern American tradition and beliefs. I'd say that slowly but surely those archaic "values" are dying off but it seems to be happening in a very backwards and contradicting way. That's my opinion.

On that note, I have been in the same boat as this guy. I want to share Dragon Ball with my very young brothers, but my dad and grandparents would definitely not approve of teeny weeny Goku kicking fish and swimming from sharks all nudey and whatnot. Also all that stuff with Bulma. I bought the two volumes of the early '95 dub of Dragon Ball and have been seriously considering picking up the old pioneer Dragon Ball Z release. I've also been buying old volumes of the 4kids One Piece for them. They love them.

I also let them play some of my DBZ games. They are really fascinated with Piccolo and Trunks. And they love the "golden hair guys."

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Post by penguintruth » Mon Dec 14, 2009 7:07 pm

I would absolutely show children DB/Z as it is, uncensored, with subtitles.

For the nudity, children are nude all the time. This insecurity we've had in the past decade because of fear of child pornography and pedophiles is understandable, but has gone too far.

The violence is a bit more tricky, but you have to ensure your children know the difference between fantasy and reality.

But I realize this is me being an armchair parent. I don't have any children, so perhaps it's just too easy for me to criticize.
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Post by Gogeta 00 » Mon Dec 14, 2009 8:23 pm

penguintruth wrote:I would absolutely show children DB/Z as it is, uncensored, with subtitles.

For the nudity, children are nude all the time. This insecurity we've had in the past decade because of fear of child pornography and pedophiles is understandable, but has gone too far.

The violence is a bit more tricky, but you have to ensure your children know the difference between fantasy and reality.

But I realize this is me being an armchair parent. I don't have any children, so perhaps it's just too easy for me to criticize.
I agree with you but, how many kids do you think would actually want to watch it with subtitles?
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