TheBlackPaladin wrote:To what extent are Ocean Studios involved with FUNimation?
The question I just asked has plagued me not only here, but also in the original DBZ dub (which is to say the "alternate" dub that began after Season 3). The whole thing is shrouded in mystery. Is there any kind of collaboration on any level going on with FUNimation and Ocean here?
For the later sagas of DBZ, Ocean and Funimation competed with each other. Despite that, they shared video footage, except the final few episodes. Ocean got the footage from AB Groupe for the last few episodes, likely reason being they were ahead of Funi in the dubbing process and didn't want to wait for footage. The scripts were similar because some of Ocean's actors were working with Funi on the scripts.
I made a rather lengthy post
a few months ago regarding Ocean's involvement with Funi's TV Kai dub and why that meant the likelihood of an Ocean dub of Kai increased (ironically someone took the Ocean-Funi TV dub collaboration and thought it decreased the likelihood of an Ocean dub) where I explained what I felt the collaboration is about. I also included some background information on the Z dubs so if you're interested in Ocean and Funi's involvement with each other, you might find it useful to read.
McNeil: yes! Drummond: maybe... If he'd make his Vegeta voice have less anger and rasp, it'd be perfect. Normally, he makes the cool-headed 26-year-old sound like a middle-aged psychopath, but I think he could do away with that if the company tells him to (and it sounds like they're being wonderfully picky). Unlike Sabat, Drummond has the ability to make a wonderful Vegeta.
That's one reason why I love Drummond's Vegeta. Almost every word he utters has that self centered, haughty attitude. I wouldn't want Drummond to change his Vegeta. Drummond's breakdown for Vegeta after being beaten by Goku was fantastic. The elite Saiyan who went beserk after having even a small amount of his blood shed by a lower class Saiyan, would go into a psychotic rage after the beating, to the extent that he'd be willing to blow up the planet without a plan to survive himself (if Freeza is correct about Saiyans not being able to survive in space) and Drummond delivered!
linkdude20002001 wrote:So, any way you can figure out what the company's name is? I don't want it be be another mystery we won't figure out for years. Lol.
AB Groupe is a likely contender, but after hearing how picky (in a really good way) the company responsible for Ocean's dub of DBZ Kai is about casting, I'm not sure. From what I know, AB Groupe didn't have much creative involvement in Ocean/Westwood's Z dub. (Most probably through choice) They gave the project to Ocean and let Ocean dub as they wanted to.
However this company, described as "new" by Kirby Morrow has shown how picky they are being. They're willing to take the risk of recasting Goku despite the previous VA willing and able to work for them. The Ocean fanbase will be familiar with Kirby's Goku, so for the "new company" to not hire him in favour of someone they feel can capture Goku's innocent, kid like personality better, shows the extent they are going to, to make this dub great.
On the other hand, it could actually be AB Groupe again, just getting themselves more involved this time. I recall Scott McNeil saying he didn't know who was behind the Ocean Z dub when asked. This was when he was dubbing the Buu saga, so Kirby might not have known AB Groupe was behind the Z dub.
Or it could be Toei Animation themselves, creating the Ocean dub of DB Kai to sell to UK, Canadian, European and other TV networks.
I'm a bit torn on this, part of me wants AB Groupe to be the company behind Ocean's Kai dub, while another part of me wants it to be a new company, so that we get Uncut DVD/Blu Ray releases of Ocean's DBZ Kai dub.
Whoever it is, I hope they want to milk the Dragon Ball series as much as Funimation does. I'd love multiple releases of the Ocean dub of Dragon Ball Kai and Dragon Ball Z as well as Blue water's DB & DBGT releases.
Piccolo Daimaoh wrote:Replacement music and the next dimension? No thank you.
You can thank Funimation for that. Once Ocean started their own dub, they didn't use the next dimension lines. Funimation was responsible for the scripting and editing of the first 2 sagas, Ocean were hired to dub the voices by Saban & Funi.
dagame10k wrote:If it keeps Kai's score, no added SFX, the video is alone with no slowmo effect,, there is a suitable script, and they keep much of the original core cast while finding suitable replacements for Goku, Bulma, and varous other characters be it bad casting or unavailablity of an actor, I might actually look forward to it.
They need to keep Maggie Blue O Hara as Bulma. I doubt Ocean would use the actress they did for the final few episodes of Z.
So your views on the existence of this dub have changed? I recall you being sceptical about it in the previous Ocean Kai topic.
dagame10k wrote:Teen Trunks - Matthew Erickson
Matthew Erickson was the Blue Water dub actor for Trunks. Even though I felt he was better at the job than Alistair Abell, I doubt Matthew would come from Calgary to Vancouver to voice for Trunks.
Someone interviewed Alistair Abell and put it on youtube. Alistair apparently loved voicing Trunks and noted that his more recent roles were not as big as Trunks. I think he might reprise his role, though it depends on the casting director.
Regarding your voice actor list, I see you put a ? for Master Roshi, you don't want Klassen to reprise this role?
linkdude20002001 wrote:I'm thinking they'll use FUNi's script. Or at least their translation. I just hope they won't be using the edited version FUNi used for Nicktoons. Punches aren't a problem on YTV, so it'd be pointless. Uncut, please.
Blue Water's Dragon Ball dub got away with brutality on Toonami. I hope that Cartoon Network broadcasts Ocean's Dragon Ball Kai dub. If so, taking into account how uncut the Blue Water dub was, they could get away with showing Ocean's DB Kai dub uncut.