Could Kai get ANOTHER rescore?

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Could Kai get ANOTHER rescore?

Post by Kuwabara » Wed Feb 13, 2013 9:56 pm

A while ago I read some theories on here regarding the possibility of Hiroshi Takaki (or perhaps Norihito Sumitomo) scoring the rest of Kai. Obviously I doubt the Kikuchi score would be switched out by this point, but what if it was? What would that mean for previous episodes of Kai? Would future re-releases of older episodes end up receiving yet another musical score for the sake of consistency?
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Post by JulieYBM » Wed Feb 13, 2013 10:06 pm

Kuwabara wrote:A while ago I read some theories on here regarding the possibility of Hiroshi Takaki (or perhaps Norihito Sumitomo) scoring the rest of Kai. Obviously I doubt the Kikuchi score would be switched out by this point, but what if it was? What would that mean for previous episodes of Kai? Would future re-releases of older episodes end up receiving yet another musical score for the sake of consistency?
There's no reason for them to do that. It's be a hassle and cost a lot of money for a series nobody wanted to buy as it is.
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Re: Could Kai get ANOTHER rescore?

Post by CaBrPi » Wed Feb 13, 2013 10:09 pm

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Kuwabara wrote:A while ago I read some theories on here regarding the possibility of Hiroshi Takaki (or perhaps Norihito Sumitomo) scoring the rest of Kai. Obviously I doubt the Kikuchi score would be switched out by this point, but what if it was? What would that mean for previous episodes of Kai? Would future re-releases of older episodes end up receiving yet another musical score for the sake of consistency?
There's no reason for them to do that. It's be a hassle and cost a lot of money for a series nobody wanted to buy as it is.
Nobody in Japan wanted to buy it. Obviously, it's done well enough in foreign markets to justify the funding of the Boo arc production.

So it's possible that Toei might get a "new" score for the Boo arc of Kai.

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Re: Could Kai get ANOTHER rescore?

Post by Kuwabara » Wed Feb 13, 2013 10:16 pm

Yeah, I thought Kai media sales were only bad in Japan? They're primarily finishing up the series for overseas markets, and they've also already replaced the score once before in a very short amount of time. I wouldn't even mind reused music from Plan to Eradicate the Super Saiyans, Episode of Bardock, Battle of Gods etc. The former two don't hold a candle to Yamamoto in my opinion, but Takaki's music is still very good. Sumitomo's work remains to be heard, but a truly feature film quality soundtrack for a Dragon Ball film is one of the few things I'm actually excited about in regards to Battle of Gods.

This whole idea is mostly just wishful thinking on my part, but I thought it would be an interesting point of discussion. The music placement in the Kikuchi score is lazy and the Yamamoto score, despite being my favorite in all of Dragon Ball, is incomplete... I just want one consistent (and good) score! :crazy:
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Post by penguintruth » Wed Feb 13, 2013 10:23 pm

I want some new Kikuchi tracks. Is he doing anything lately?
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Re: Could Kai get ANOTHER rescore?

Post by Kuwabara » Wed Feb 13, 2013 10:31 pm

As far as I know, the latest series Kikuchi worked on was the Doraemon series from 2005 or 2006.
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Re: Could Kai get ANOTHER rescore?

Post by kei17 » Thu Feb 14, 2013 5:38 am

penguintruth wrote:I want some new Kikuchi tracks. Is he doing anything lately?
His latest composition in 2010: http://youtu.be/e3ziBwFP7xc
Kuwabara wrote:As far as I know, the latest series Kikuchi worked on was the Doraemon series from 2005 or 2006.
The composer for the current series is Kan Sawada instead of Kikuchi, which is one of the reasons I never watch Doraemon these days.

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Re: Could Kai get ANOTHER rescore?

Post by Insertclevername » Mon Feb 18, 2013 1:39 pm

To be honest, I'd like a re score. It would actually give me an incentive to buy and watch the series then.
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Post by eledoremassis02 » Mon Feb 18, 2013 10:27 pm

My first thought was "I wonder if FUNimation read this and wrote a note for a future release". :lol:

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Re: Could Kai get ANOTHER rescore?

Post by OmegaRockman » Tue Feb 19, 2013 12:11 am

kei17 wrote:
penguintruth wrote:I want some new Kikuchi tracks. Is he doing anything lately?
His latest composition in 2010: http://youtu.be/e3ziBwFP7xc
Holy carp! He did Goseiger music? I just finished that series today! That's frigging awesome!

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Re: Could Kai get ANOTHER rescore?

Post by dbboxkaifan » Tue Feb 19, 2013 6:41 am

This is Kai and Toei Animation, so the chance is high of such happening.

I'd vote for Ultimate Tenkaichi's cinematic music.
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Re: Could Kai get ANOTHER rescore?

Post by TheRed259 » Tue Feb 19, 2013 1:43 pm

kei17 wrote:His latest composition in 2010: http://youtu.be/e3ziBwFP7xc
Shunsuke Kikuchi - Karate-Robo Zaborgar 2011
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_emPOYRrleA
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Re: Could Kai get ANOTHER rescore?

Post by kei17 » Tue Feb 19, 2013 1:57 pm

TheRed259 wrote:
kei17 wrote:His latest composition in 2010: http://youtu.be/e3ziBwFP7xc
Shunsuke Kikuchi - Karate-Robo Zaborgar 2011
( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_emPOYRr ... t0Y_gaeclw )
That movie reused his old score from the original TV series in 1974, so that's not new at all. It's re-arranged by Yasuhiko Fukuda, though. Drastic Groundion still is his latest composition.
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Re: Could Kai get ANOTHER rescore?

Post by Kuwabara » Tue Feb 19, 2013 10:35 pm

eledoremassis02 wrote:My first thought was "I wonder if FUNimation read this and wrote a note for a future release". :lol:
I know you're joking but man do I hope so, Kai with Kikuchi is completely unwatchable.
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Post by kei17 » Fri Feb 22, 2013 3:06 pm

dbboxkaifan wrote:I'd vote for Ultimate Tenkaichi's cinematic music.
Even if you use all the pieces from PtEtSS and the cutscenes, you still need far more tracks for a TV series with over 50 episodes. The Kikuchi version of Kai uses about 70 pieces of music, but it's horribly repetitive. Simply using more Kikuchi pieces would be the cheapest and safest way.
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Re: Could Kai get ANOTHER rescore?

Post by bkev » Fri Feb 22, 2013 4:47 pm

Aside from the Ocean dub I don't think this will happen. I'm curious to see how bland that one will go. I imagine it'll sound like one of the lower quality in-house 4Kids score (TMNT comes to mind.)
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Re: Could Kai get ANOTHER rescore?

Post by Fizzer » Fri Feb 22, 2013 8:34 pm

I'm glad that Ocean is apparently rescoring. I have no idea what their dub will be like or what kind of music they'll use, but I think it's worth a gamble, and if they're going to so much effort to create an insanely accurate script I'm sure they'll want to stay true to the tone of the series too.

The best way to fix Kai is certainly to just use more Kikuchi tracks. The music in the original anime is great, so there's no reason for it not to be in Kai. I'm really hoping that this is what Ocean has decided to do, because they know everyone is complaining about Kikuchi Kai; that they've purchased more Kikuchi tracks and used the Z placement or something :P

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Post by Kendamu » Sun Feb 24, 2013 1:58 am

I absolutely hope that there's a brand new Canadian-made score for the Ocean Group-acted version of Kai. With all the trouble there's been up to this point regarding the music in Kai, it'd be interesting to see what someone new could come up with. I know that it could end up being total garbage, but if they're putting thought into it, it might actually be neat and I won't have any prior expectations as to what it's "supposed to" sound like, as Kai is in this weird place music-wise where it misues the DBZ score right now.

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Post by Gonstead » Sun Feb 24, 2013 3:14 am

bkev wrote:I imagine it'll sound like one of the lower quality in-house 4Kids score (TMNT comes to mind.)
I consider their TMNT score to be one of their better works, possibly their greatest next to the score they did for YuGiOh.
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Re: Could Kai get ANOTHER rescore?

Post by penguintruth » Sun Feb 24, 2013 5:03 am

Replacement music is probably a deal breaker for me.
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