The International Version of the Buu-Kai Arc

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Re: The International Version of the Buu-Kai Arc

Post by Gonstead » Sat Oct 18, 2014 1:12 pm

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Re: The International Version of the Buu-Kai Arc

Post by DBZ_Lee » Sat Oct 18, 2014 9:14 pm

So this week's episode of Kai #126 (International #133) covered all but the last 5 minutes of "Z" #245, which leaves just over 46 episodes left to cover into 34 episodes of Kai. So, just over 4 hours worth of content will be cut - approx 245 minutes, just please, cut that awful filler inside of Super Buu and Kid Buu going to Other World.

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Re: The International Version of the Buu-Kai Arc

Post by gameleon » Mon Oct 20, 2014 3:20 pm

Question. Does the international version also censor the stuff the Japanese version did? (Like the guys head exploding by Babidi's magic)

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Re: The International Version of the Buu-Kai Arc

Post by Valerius Dover » Mon Oct 20, 2014 3:33 pm

^Not gonna act like I've seen it or anything, but it's possible there have also been additional edits for the broadcasts, like the black-and-white thing they had in South Korea's TV version of Spopovich beating Videl. So, edits we see on this French Broadcast may not necessarily apply to the uncut masters.

Incidentally, the full episode that was posted above.....why is it only 22 minutes long? That's like 4Kids length. Even if you factor in PAL Speedup, it's still a few minutes shorter than anime-length.
I didn't watch, I only spot checked a few things. Also, the OP is placed after the 5 minute recap. Is this is a regular thing in The Final Chapters? (Like the first Kai?)
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Re: The International Version of the Buu-Kai Arc

Post by sangofe » Tue Oct 21, 2014 7:51 am

Valerius Dover wrote:^Not gonna act like I've seen it or anything, but it's possible there have also been additional edits for the broadcasts, like the black-and-white thing they had in South Korea's TV version of Spopovich beating Videl. So, edits we see on this French Broadcast may not necessarily apply to the uncut masters.

Incidentally, the full episode that was posted above.....why is it only 22 minutes long? That's like 4Kids length. Even if you factor in PAL Speedup, it's still a few minutes shorter than anime-length.
I didn't watch, I only spot checked a few things. Also, the OP is placed after the 5 minute recap. Is this is a regular thing in The Final Chapters? (Like the first Kai?)
You mean episode 100? For some reason that didn't have a part of the review part. And the french broadcast really is uncut. It had tons of blood in Videl's fight, and it wasn't in black and white.

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Re: The International Version of the Buu-Kai Arc

Post by Valerius Dover » Tue Oct 21, 2014 10:49 am

^Ok, uncut. Makes sense given that it isn't on a mainstream channel. I meant The Final Chapters Episode 1 (or 99 overall). Why it's only 22 minutes as opposed to 24.
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Re: The International Version of the Buu-Kai Arc

Post by sangofe » Mon Oct 27, 2014 3:24 pm

Interesting fact: the french dub of the latest episode has got red blood, whereas the blood was colored in the Japanese version.

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Re: The International Version of the Buu-Kai Arc

Post by Valerius Dover » Mon Oct 27, 2014 4:07 pm

^That confirms my suspicion that the censorship only applies to the JP version. How was Babidi's middle finger handled?
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Re: The International Version of the Buu-Kai Arc

Post by dbboxkaifan » Mon Oct 27, 2014 8:13 pm

It seems backwards as to what Toei's doing because they used to broadcast anime completely uncut in Japan but in the west they would censor (and still do), I can't believe that their kids are too sensitive for it now. :|
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Re: The International Version of the Buu-Kai Arc

Post by JulieYBM » Mon Oct 27, 2014 8:33 pm

dbboxkaifan wrote:It seems backwards as to what Toei's doing because they used to broadcast anime completely uncut in Japan but in the west they would censor (and still do), I can't believe that their kids are too sensitive for it now. :|
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Re: The International Version of the Buu-Kai Arc

Post by sangofe » Wed Oct 29, 2014 3:12 am

Here's a clip comparing the japanese and french version of Babidi's death:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nc4Fkmbauvw

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Re: The International Version of the Buu-Kai Arc

Post by alakazam^ » Wed Oct 29, 2014 7:51 am

sangofe wrote:Here's a clip comparing the japanese and french version of Babidi's death:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nc4Fkmbauvw
The scene is pretty much the same, the blood is only lit up when Boo's fist connects. Wouldn't consider that an edit or censorship...

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Re: The International Version of the Buu-Kai Arc

Post by sangofe » Wed Oct 29, 2014 1:20 pm

alakazam^ wrote:
sangofe wrote:Here's a clip comparing the japanese and french version of Babidi's death:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nc4Fkmbauvw
The scene is pretty much the same, the blood is only lit up when Boo's fist connects. Wouldn't consider that an edit or censorship...
Well, it's an edit for sure as it's red in the start. But it's certainly more cut than in DBZ: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LbH3FsgrDr4#t=232 Although it's strange that in DBZ, this scene's got partly purple blood: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LCbO4zdTOqk#t=148

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Re: The International Version of the Buu-Kai Arc

Post by dbboxkaifan » Wed Oct 29, 2014 1:27 pm

alakazam^ wrote:The scene is pretty much the same, the blood is only lit up when Boo's fist connects. Wouldn't consider that an edit or censorship...
The blow at the beginning is definitely red rather than pink, so even though they censored it afterwards (just as the Japanese ver.) it's still somewhat uncut-ish.

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Re: The International Version of the Buu-Kai Arc

Post by sintzu » Mon Nov 03, 2014 2:49 pm

Did this happen in the international version :

Goku appears.
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Then Buu is damaged and blown off though Goku hasn't done anything yet.
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Re: The International Version of the Buu-Kai Arc

Post by ShinGaijin » Mon Nov 03, 2014 4:30 pm

:lol: Yes, unfortunately.
I didn't noticed that, to be honest. :lol: I'm tired of their amateurism, really.

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Re: The International Version of the Buu-Kai Arc

Post by dbboxkaifan » Mon Nov 03, 2014 4:41 pm

Hm, so both are censored to a certain extent better to wait until Final Chapters' receives a home release and then hopefully it'll be uncensored (Kai has its own definition of uncut but fingers crossed it's mostly uncut).
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Re: The International Version of the Buu-Kai Arc

Post by ChibiGoku » Mon Nov 03, 2014 4:58 pm

dbboxkaifan wrote:Hm, so both are censored to a certain extent better to wait until Final Chapters' receives a home release and then hopefully it'll be uncensored (Kai has its own definition of uncut but fingers crossed it's mostly uncut).
Actually, I think it was just trimmed down for time.

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Re: The International Version of the Buu-Kai Arc

Post by danielsan_190196 » Thu Nov 20, 2014 7:59 am

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Re: The International Version of the Buu-Kai Arc

Post by TheAldella » Wed Nov 26, 2014 5:10 am

I don't know if anyone pointed it out, but in the Battle of Gods Extras, we get insight on the recording sessions of the English VAs, and in said sessions, Chris Sabat talks to Kyle Hebert about how this approach to Adult Gohan is "different from Kai" and how they "toned him down for Kai".
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