So about C.Sabat's "new" voice...

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Re: So about C.Sabat's "new" voice...

Post by ABED » Sat Aug 29, 2015 6:52 pm

Ree wrote:he might have just been better than usual in that 99 clip that was shown but the redub is usually my least favorite in comparisons because his voice is just so deep
What's wrong with deep for Vegeta? It works because it's far more natural for Sabat since he has a very deep voice.
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Re: So about C.Sabat's "new" voice...

Post by Ree » Sat Aug 29, 2015 7:25 pm

Vegeta is 29 in the saiyan saga so his voice shouldn't be as deep as it is.
In the redub he sounds 50. .
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Re: So about C.Sabat's "new" voice...

Post by ABED » Sat Aug 29, 2015 7:35 pm

Ree wrote:Vegeta is 29 in the saiyan saga so his voice shouldn't be as deep as it is.
In the redub he sounds 50. .
29 is a full grown adult and Sabat's voice IS deep, and sounds nothing like a 50 year old, there's a vigor to it.
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Re: So about C.Sabat's "new" voice...

Post by Ree » Sat Aug 29, 2015 7:40 pm

yeah but 29 is still young adult.
If you say he doesnt sound 50 then look at the pedo Vegeta scene.
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Re: So about C.Sabat's "new" voice...

Post by ABED » Sat Aug 29, 2015 7:42 pm

Ree wrote:yeah but 29 is still young adult.
If you say he doesnt sound 50 then look at the pedo Vegeta scene.
Young people can have deep voices. Sabat was born in 1973, so that should tell you how old he was when he voiced the character.

Pedo Vegeta? The part where he knees Goku in the gut?
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Re: So about C.Sabat's "new" voice...

Post by Theophrastus » Sat Aug 29, 2015 7:44 pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kpozq2zfm1I

Just to put it out there, this video (up to the 1:45 mark when the Budokai footage starts) is probably a more representative sampling of what Sabat's Vegeta sounded like from '99-'02-ish than the one I posted earlier.

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Post by Ree » Sat Aug 29, 2015 7:46 pm

They can but its not common. Deep is not the only problem.
that's the one.

0:32 - 0:35 that's the worst Vegeta ever! how did this air on TV?
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Re: So about C.Sabat's "new" voice...

Post by ABED » Sat Aug 29, 2015 7:52 pm

Ree wrote:They can but its not common. Deep is not the only problem.
that's the one.

0:32 - 0:35 that's the worst Vegeta ever! how did this air on TV?
1 - I wouldn't call that pedo
2 - Deep voices aren't rare, much less at people near their 30s. What other problems do you have with his Vegeta?
3 - Season 3 is full of moments like that. It's full of actors without experience, a bad director, and terrible scripts.
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Re: So about C.Sabat's "new" voice...

Post by Ree » Sat Aug 29, 2015 7:59 pm

1 - that was the name of the video and it was easier than saying the scene where Vegeta knees Gohan
2 - The acting is not good, there is too much rasp and grunting and the actor doesn't seem to give a **** in some of the lines.
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Post by ABED » Sat Aug 29, 2015 9:40 pm

Some people have raspy voices, that has little to do with his performance. I also don't agree that Sabat doesn't give a crap in some of his lines, he clearly has enthusiasm for his characters.
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Re: So about C.Sabat's "new" voice...

Post by Ree » Sat Aug 29, 2015 9:53 pm

When it affects the performance then its a problem.
here's an example:
"There's no such thing as fair or unfair in battle. There is only victory or in your case defeat." he says this after defeating Guld, exactly the way I typed it.

I didnt ask this earlier but if you were a girl with a crush and Vegeta was a real life person which voice would entice you more? I don't speak for everybody but I think I would be more attracted to Roger & Brian before Sabat if I was a horny fangirl.
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Re: So about C.Sabat's "new" voice...

Post by Dbzfan94 » Sat Aug 29, 2015 10:25 pm

Ree wrote:When it affects the performance then its a problem.
here's an example:
"There's no such thing as fair or unfair in battle. There is only victory or in your case defeat." he says this after defeating Guld, exactly the way I typed it.

I didnt ask this earlier but if you were a girl with a crush and Vegeta was a real life person which voice would entice you more? I don't speak for everybody but I think I would be more attracted to Roger & Brian before Sabat if I was a horny fangirl.
I know what line you're referring to and I hear nothing wrong with it. It sounds fine

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Re: So about C.Sabat's "new" voice...

Post by ABED » Sun Aug 30, 2015 8:38 am

Ree wrote:When it affects the performance then its a problem.
here's an example:
"There's no such thing as fair or unfair in battle. There is only victory or in your case defeat." he says this after defeating Guld, exactly the way I typed it.

I didnt ask this earlier but if you were a girl with a crush and Vegeta was a real life person which voice would entice you more? I don't speak for everybody but I think I would be more attracted to Roger & Brian before Sabat if I was a horny fangirl.
What voice I was attracted to has no bearing on whether I think the voice fits. Drummond doesn't fit later Vegeta. The rasp doesn't hurt Sabat's performance anymore.
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Re: So about C.Sabat's "new" voice...

Post by Ree » Sun Aug 30, 2015 9:10 am

What about in that link I should you when he's about to sacrifice himself? he's not as evil sounding and he sounds older while still keeping what was good before.
maybe but he still doesn't sound Vegeta like and the rasp affects it just enough to bring it down
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Post by Dbzfan94 » Sun Aug 30, 2015 10:02 am

Ree wrote:What about in that link I should you when he's about to sacrifice himself? he's not as evil sounding and he sounds older while still keeping what was good before.
maybe but he still doesn't sound Vegeta like and the rasp affects it just enough to bring it down
Vegeta shouldn't sound evil when he's about to sacrifice himself. That's the whole point.

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Re: So about C.Sabat's "new" voice...

Post by Ree » Sun Aug 30, 2015 10:08 am

He doesn't sound evil which is what I typed and his voice shouldn't change SO MUCH because he's not evil anymore
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Post by ABED » Sun Aug 30, 2015 11:36 am

Ree wrote:He doesn't sound evil which is what I typed and his voice shouldn't change SO MUCH because he's not evil anymore
It shouldn't change, but my point would be to not get a voice that sounds evil. Horikawa plays both so well.
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Post by Ree » Sun Aug 30, 2015 12:04 pm

If you can act as both versions of Vegeta why does it matter so much how you sound?
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Re: So about C.Sabat's "new" voice...

Post by irreality » Mon Aug 31, 2015 4:46 am

Ree wrote:I don't speak for everybody but I think I would be more attracted to Roger & Brian before Sabat if I was a horny fangirl.
I don't think you speak for everyone. :P On "sexiness" alone Sabat's Vegeta voice is miles ahead of the other two.

(of course, not in the same league as Horikawa or Rene Garcia… but you asked for a comparison…).

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Re: So about C.Sabat's "new" voice...

Post by Ree » Mon Aug 31, 2015 6:41 am

Which Chris Vegeta voice are you talking about in particular?
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