"Dragon Ball Super" Series Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

[ssj_duelist]

Woah looking interesting, so we all predicted Monaka versus Hit would be the final fight, but it's possibly Monaka versus Champa.

Monaka is Beerus' strongest opponent, and we know Beerus is slightly stronger than Champa so things could get risky.

As for people not thinking Hit would be fearful of Champa, you're wrong, based on predictions of HIt's strength people seem to think Hit is stronger than Champa, but this is likely far from true. Hit is to Champa that Goku is to Beerus. He's not going down in 1 shot, but we isn't God level on his own yet.

[Baggie_Saiyan]

Maybe SSGSS KK engulfs Goku in a white Aura?

[namekiansaiyan]

Vegeta never went Super Saiyan Blue so was never in real trouble and Vegeta would not lose until the audience sees Super Saiyan Blue.

Vegeta could lose because Goku was still in the tournament and could showcase Blue.

You really need to deal with whatever you haven't dealt with yet. You're being such a sore loser :/

Sore loser about what, I think the way the fights went were bad and there was no tension and that is all.

This means that goku could have used ssj with kk.

That is why it makes no sense, it is just stupid if it just comes out of nowhere.

[dblack]

Never knew the Pikkon tourney was non-canon. Always thought that was a cool story, loved his crazy special with the slow stance and fire, wish we'd of gotten some more cool looking attacks like that in this tourney. (Other than Hits new time-skip punching which does sound pretty cool.)
Curious who stops Champa, obvious choice is Monaka but I still have a feeling he's a fake.
Also curious about the impending Future Trunks arrival. Did Beerus come to his earth looking for a SSG? Being he's the only fighter left in his timeline I'm also hoping he's Goku/Vegeta level. Maybe since there's not 5 SAIYANS for the God ritual in his timeline he found a different way to power-up.
A lot of cool stuff on the horizon I think.

[RandomGuy96]

Assuming it works like it did in the Pikkon fight, stacking Kaio-Ken and SS isn't really any different from just using a big charged ki attack. It enhances the user's power by a non-ridiculous amount (Pikkon shrugged off that punch, after all) and lets them unleash an attack far beyond their usual capabilities, at the cost of gassing them out in about five seconds.

[jplaya2023]

so blue goku mixing red kaioken = purple aura

[SansrivaaL]

Well it could be that Goku just recently found a way to use ssjb+kaioken simultaneously. Him and Vegeta trained for 3years, I doubt nothing would come out of that.

[Smilodon]

Well it could be that Goku just recently found a way to use ssjb+kaioken simultaneously. Him and Vegeta trained for 3years, I doubt nothing would come out of that.

I think Goku could use a kind of different Kaioken. I can imagine this:

- Goku's SSJB Ki = 5.000.000.000.000
- Vegeta's SSJB Ki = 5.000.000.000.000 (I think they are at same level at this point)
- Hitto's Ki = 5.100.000.000.000 (I little more over power SSJB)
- Beerus's Ki = 6.000.000.000.000 (arround 20% more power than SSJB)
Those numbers are only my imagination. Only to have an idea.

If Goku can use SSJB + Kaioken 1,1x, he can get 1,1 x 5.000.000.000.000. So, Goku SSJB + Kaioken = 5.500.000.000.000. It's far enough to overpower Hitto (to avoid Hit's technique) and can't reach Beerus's Power.
I don't think a 2x Kaioken would be possible at this moment. It would be insane(overpower Beerus and - possible - even Whis) and he would be dead. So a 1,1x Kaioken is possible. We will see.

First post! Sorry if i did something wrong or my bad english!

[TekTheNinja]

Whipped this up real quick, what one would you guys prefer for Super Saiyan Blue Kaio-ken?

Uhh... Is it just me or is the image gone?

Weird... It was just there a bit ago.

[Vynak]

Whipped this up real quick, what one would you guys prefer for Super Saiyan Blue Kaio-ken?

6 wins hands down, 1 I guess would be the runner up. Everything else looks too bright and washed out IMO.

I'm a bit disappointed in how things are turning out honestly. I was hoping for a U7 loss and earth to move to U6. Lots of new material and potential storylines to work with if that happened. The teaser about the 'future of a certain somebody' isn't that appealing to me but we'll see where it goes.

I sort of have mixed feelings about Goku taking the win against Hit. On one hand, I think Goku is being portrayed as too much of an idiot in Super so I think he's overdue for a good solid win. But on the other hand, his win means Goku and Vegeta destroyed every opponent in the tournament. I'm not really one of the people crying about this being the Goku & Vegeta show (because honestly I don't really care most of the time) but this tournament was lazy. I would have preferred a more traditional tourney with set matches and breaks in-between for the fighters. More intelligent/strategic fighting. More fighters. I was hoping to see Nips fight at some point (and not just against Champa because he's a poor loser).

[TekTheNinja]

Whipped this up real quick, what one would you guys prefer for Super Saiyan Blue Kaio-ken?

6 wins hands down, 1 I guess would be the runner up. Everything else looks too bright and washed out IMO.

I'm a bit disappointed in how things are turning out honestly. I was hoping for a U7 loss and earth to move to U6. Lots of new material and potential storylines to work with if that happened. The teaser about the 'future of a certain somebody' isn't that appealing to me but we'll see where it goes.

I sort of have mixed feelings about Goku taking the win against Hit. On one hand, I think Goku is being portrayed as too much of an idiot in Super so I think he's overdue for a good solid win. But on the other hand, his win means Goku and Vegeta destroyed every opponent in the tournament. I'm not really one of the people crying about this being the Goku & Vegeta show (because honestly I don't really care most of the time) but this tournament was lazy. I would have preferred a more traditional tourney with set matches and breaks in-between for the fighters. More intelligent/strategic fighting. More fighters. I was hoping to see Nips fight at some point (and not just against Champa because he's a poor loser).

You just said you aren't one of the people to complain about it being the Goku and Vegeta show, but then proceeded to complain about it being the Goku and Vegeta show.

Stick to one side or the other, man. :L

[Vynak]

You just said you aren't one of the people to complain about it being the Goku and Vegeta show, but then proceeded to complain about it being the Goku and Vegeta show.

Stick to one side or the other, man. :L

It's less about the characters and more about the tournament in this case. I REALLY like tournament arcs and always wanted a Z one so I was pretty hype about this one. I'm also a huge Vegeta fan (hence why I don't generally care that Super is the Goku & Vegeta show). But I will be the first to admit that 2 out of 3 of Vegeta's fights weren't even real fights, just fanservice (which I did enjoy but still). Goku's fights weren't that great either. Piccolo had a decent fight but his opponent cheated. I just want a real tournament with solid fighting and strategies.

[FortuneSSJ]

Ep.40: “The Conclusion” (provisional title) April 24th
Scenario: King Ryu, Storyboard/Director/Animation Supervisor: undetermined
The tournament against Universe 6 for the fate of the Earth has finally come to a close. Furious at Hit and his teammates for losing, Champa tries to destroy them. As Cabba and the others are frozen in terror, someone enters the ring…

(...)
That being said finally a match that we have no freaking clue who wins, will it be Goku or Hit? will Goku lose thus Monaka being the one to beat Hit or will Goku be the one to beat him?

Goku beats Hit. Non-Saiyan either don't fight in this tournament (Buu/Monaka) or get humiliated (Piccolo).
It was 2 vs 5 since the beginning. Misleading promotion.

[Hellspawn28]

So U6 loses? I remember a lot of people was expecting U7 to lose.

The majority of expectations turned out to be wrong.

People was expecting Goku to lose like he did in the past tournaments. Not to mention Toriyama probably wanted us to think that Goku would lose, but didn't.

[Noah]

I would like it if they stop trying to treat the openings and endings as something different with showing off a big cast, and instead just cut to what we're really getting. The most accurate part was Goku and Vegeta's aura's covering everyone else. Which is unintentionally really funny.

That was one of the best things said in this forum in a while, I mean is so annoying that Super tries to delivery such a false message do such with endings showing a lot of characters like they could be revelant again, I mean we all know that they won't.


As for the titles, so disappointed that was somewhat like what I predicted:

...but I know what they're trying to do, maybe with the match between Vegeta and Hit, Goku detects something that could help him while fighting Hit in his turn, just like Golden Freeza but in reverse!

I was really expecting a final match between Monaka and Hit, but if is confirmed that Monaka is the one who enters in the ring, so I'll be glad that we'll finally see him in action.

[FortuneSSJ]

People was expecting Goku to lose like he did in the past tournaments. Not to mention Toriyama probably wanted us to think that Goku would lose, but didn't.

Some people were expecting the tournament to get interrupted too and no one thought Buu and Monaka wouldn't even fight.
In the end Toriyama trolled everyone in a way or another, because no one saw all of this coming. Give him the trophy.

[Kuririn Fan]

Nothing is confirmed, we just hope its him, hes the only one who can save this arc from being Goku and Vegeta show.

[ZombieVito]

Goku beats Hit. Non-Saiyan either don't fight in this tournament (Buu/Monaka) or get humiliated (Piccolo).
It was 2 vs 5 since the beginning. Misleading promotion.

Well at least in the anime Piccolo has one of the best fights of the tournament.

Toei cared and respected him. Toriyama simply didn't.

[Telamon]

I think Monaka will be the villain on this one.Hit will escape with the cube.Beerus,Goku,Vegeta and co. will team up to take him down,

Spoiler:

Hasnt Toriyama said in the interview that he postpooned super saiyan white due to clashing colors? Monaka is very very pink Although the evidence does suggest Monaka will go bad though, hard to chew on this all!

This leads me to believe the new enemy will have a largely white flavor on him, and the only ones that have white hair or white influences are whis and vados, but while Vados acts a tad strange i really doubt she`s gonna be evil. On that V-jump cover you linked, who is that white haired saiyan look-a-like behind that DQM 3 badge? Part of DBS or totally different series? I don`t watch anime a lot.

All in all, i believe the villain that is going to enter to stage will be something entirely new, i suspect some rogue god of destruction/attendant like guy from a whole different universe, like universe 3 or 9 or something that was secretly present the whole time and overheard what the super dragonballs can do, and of course tries to kill everyone so that he can get them.

[Telamon]

I'm not sure it's worth whipping up possible colors for the "new" technique. It's been described as the seal on it being broken when Goku uses it. What if that means he's perfected it, and it loses its side effects and is no longer red or something?

It took a few seconds to do each one. I think it's fun to speculate what it might look like.

They look great to be honest, but i think goku is simply gonna keep his original blue hair with a red aura