"Dragon Ball Super" Series Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

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Post by emperior » Thu Aug 17, 2017 12:52 pm

I don't really like how "thick" Goku is in this poster. He looks way too bulked up in my opinion. His traps and neck are way too huge, if they just fixed those it would look much better.

Unfortunately most of the fans love to see the characters big and muscular.
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Post by HeroR » Thu Aug 17, 2017 12:52 pm

alakazam^ wrote:The scan says that Universe 2's team not only has an Yardratian, but also a Tsufurian.
Is it the Baby looking creature. (Ignore this, thinking of U3)

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Post by MisteryOne » Thu Aug 17, 2017 12:53 pm

Nero<>Akira wrote:I don't know why Toyo made Gohan have Piccolo's attire. it's just visually inferior to him having the orange gi.
I honestly prefer it that way, I'm tired of the orange gi (yeah, even for Goku. The RoF outfit was better). Anyway it's just a cover, it may be different in the chapter themselves (I hope not)
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Post by Lord Beerus » Thu Aug 17, 2017 12:54 pm

Noah wrote:
Grimlock wrote:
alakazam^ wrote:The scan says that Universe 2's team not only has an Yardratian, but also a Tsufurian.
WHAT!? HOW CAN THIS BE!? :shock: :o
Exactly! Isn't supposed the races for one particular universe to only inhabit in his twin counterpart? Yardratians and Tsufurian should be at U6 not U2 :wtf:
Yeah, that's sound like a bit of an inconsistency. But, to plays the devil advocate, the Tsufurian were not in the original story (the manga). It was a Toei concept introduced in a filler episode and was only further expanded in GT and the Plan To Eradicate The Saiyans OVA.

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Post by namekiansaiyan » Thu Aug 17, 2017 12:55 pm

This is going to leave everyone way behind in terms of power apart from Jiren as the rest can't even really keep up with SSBKK Goku as it is.

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Post by Nero<>Akira » Thu Aug 17, 2017 12:56 pm

MisteryOne wrote:
Nero<>Akira wrote:I don't know why Toyo made Gohan have Piccolo's attire. it's just visually inferior to him having the orange gi.
I honestly prefer it that way, I'm tired of the orange gi (yeah, even for Goku. The RoF outfit was better). Anyway it's just a cover, it may be different in the chapter themselves (I hope not)
I would've preferred if Goku kept his new outfit too and find it dumb Toei just shelved it. Same with Vegeta. I love Goku's normal gi, but the new one just felt like a natural progression to his EOS look. Gohan with Goku's gi just looks the best out of all his looks.
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Post by emperior » Thu Aug 17, 2017 12:56 pm

Lord Beerus wrote:
Noah wrote:
Grimlock wrote:
WHAT!? HOW CAN THIS BE!? :shock: :o
Exactly! Isn't supposed the races for one particular universe to only inhabit in his twin counterpart? Yardratians and Tsufurian should be at U6 not U2 :wtf:
Yeah, that's sound like a bit of an inconsistency. But, to plays the devil advocate, the Tsufurian were not in the original story (the manga). It was a Toei concept introduced in a filler episode and was only further expanded in GT and the Plan To Eradicate The Saiyans OVA.
I don't think it's an inconsistency. I feel positive they will explain it. Maybe the Yardratian and the Tsufurian escaped together, somehow and for some reason.
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Post by GodKaio-Ken » Thu Aug 17, 2017 12:58 pm

emperior wrote:I don't really like how "thick" Goku is in this poster. He looks way too bulked up in my opinion. His traps and neck are way too huge, if they just fixed those it would look much better.

Unfortunately most of the fans love to see the characters big and muscular.
Totally agree. I was honestly hoping for the body type of SSG with Black SSJ or SSG hair.

The eyes...I wanted the red SSG eyes but I'm not sure it matters too much.

Though generally posters tend to exaggerate a bit on muscles, not sure if thats common in DB but I see it in other mediums.
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Post by Nero<>Akira » Thu Aug 17, 2017 12:59 pm

Lord Beerus wrote:
Noah wrote:
Grimlock wrote:
WHAT!? HOW CAN THIS BE!? :shock: :o
Exactly! Isn't supposed the races for one particular universe to only inhabit in his twin counterpart? Yardratians and Tsufurian should be at U6 not U2 :wtf:
Yeah, that's sound like a bit of an inconsistency. But, to plays the devil advocate, the Tsufurian were not in the original story (the manga). It was a Toei concept introduced in a filler episode and was only further expanded in GT and the Plan To Eradicate The Saiyans OVA.
This is true. Even Episode of Bardock had the tuffle's but they were never introduced or even mentioned ever in the canon. so it makes sense if they're in U2. i think its a fine way to add them in there. i never had a particular problem with that race. hell, i honestly would not have an issue if there was a Baby looking character introduced. i'm fond of his design.
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Post by Nero<>Akira » Thu Aug 17, 2017 12:59 pm

Nero<>Akira wrote:
MisteryOne wrote:
Nero<>Akira wrote:I don't know why Toyo made Gohan have Piccolo's attire. it's just visually inferior to him having the orange gi.
I honestly prefer it that way, I'm tired of the orange gi (yeah, even for Goku. The RoF outfit was better). Anyway it's just a cover, it may be different in the chapter themselves (I hope not)
I would've preferred if Goku kept his new outfit too and find it dumb Toei just shelved it. Same with Vegeta. I love Goku's normal gi, but the new one just felt like a natural progression to his EOS look. Gohan with Goku's gi just looks the best out of all his looks.
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Post by Lord Beerus » Thu Aug 17, 2017 1:00 pm

namekiansaiyan wrote:This is going to leave everyone way behind in terms of power apart from Jiren as the rest can't even really keep up with SSBKK Goku as it is.
For what it's worth, this will make the battle between Goku and Jiren all the more spectacular and unpredictable. I also have a strong feeling this form will be a one time thing. But I really I hope that's not the case as I would love to see this form in action again at some point down the line. Make it Goku's new trump card since SSJB has been overplayed.

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Post by hardcorefakes » Thu Aug 17, 2017 1:01 pm

emperior wrote:I don't really like how "thick" Goku is in this poster. He looks way too bulked up in my opinion. His traps and neck are way too huge, if they just fixed those it would look much better.

Unfortunately most of the fans love to see the characters big and muscular.
He looks how he should be, if anything.

Can't stand skinny, overly-lean Goku from Dragon Ball Super.

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Post by dbgtFO » Thu Aug 17, 2017 1:02 pm

Nero<>Akira wrote:
MisteryOne wrote:
Nero<>Akira wrote:I don't know why Toyo made Gohan have Piccolo's attire. it's just visually inferior to him having the orange gi.
I honestly prefer it that way, I'm tired of the orange gi (yeah, even for Goku. The RoF outfit was better). Anyway it's just a cover, it may be different in the chapter themselves (I hope not)
I would've preferred if Goku kept his new outfit too and find it dumb Toyo just shelved it. Same with Vegeta. I love Goku's normal gi, but the new one just felt like a natural progression to his EOS look. Gohan with Goku's gi just looks the best out of all his looks.
We don't know why the RoF outfits were shelved and who wanted that to happen.
I wouldn't want Gohan in Goku's gi. He's his own man and should have a personal gi to reflect that like the one time blue gi with orange armbands Toriyama drew him with on an early Buu Arc illustration. That or his Saiyaman gi without scarf.

As for the supposed Tsuruian, who is it? The guy with the mustache? Somebody said it's the guy, that looks like Baby, so the orange guy??

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Post by namekiansaiyan » Thu Aug 17, 2017 1:03 pm

emperior wrote:
Lord Beerus wrote:
Noah wrote:
Exactly! Isn't supposed the races for one particular universe to only inhabit in his twin counterpart? Yardratians and Tsufurian should be at U6 not U2 :wtf:
Yeah, that's sound like a bit of an inconsistency. But, to plays the devil advocate, the Tsufurian were not in the original story (the manga). It was a Toei concept introduced in a filler episode and was only further expanded in GT and the Plan To Eradicate The Saiyans OVA.
I don't think it's an inconsistency. I feel positive they will explain it. Maybe the Yardratian and the Tsufurian escaped together, somehow and for some reason.
I wouldn't be surprised if we get no in universe reason why they are included but the out of universe reason is that they wanted them involved but there was no more room on team Universe 6 after adding 2 Namekians and 2 more Saiyans.
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namekiansaiyan wrote:This is going to leave everyone way behind in terms of power apart from Jiren as the rest can't even really keep up with SSBKK Goku as it is.
For what it's worth, this will make the battle between Goku and Jiren all the more spectacular and unpredictable. I also have a strong feeling this form will be a one time thing. But I really I hope that's not the case as I would love to see this form in action again at some point down the line. Make it Goku's new trump card since SSJB has been overplayed.
It could work as a 1 time thing as otherwise it will basically make 8 Universes( if they are revived) redundant in any story going forward apart from Goku and Jiren.

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Post by Grimlock » Thu Aug 17, 2017 1:03 pm

Lord Beerus wrote:But, to plays the devil advocate, the Tsufurian were not in the original story (the manga). It was a Toei concept introduced in a filler episode and was only further expanded in GT and the Plan To Eradicate The Saiyans OVA.
Tsufurujins were actually Toriyama's concept introduced in a filler episode. They were mentioned in one of those 2014 interviews, becoming canon to the manga.
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precita wrote:Goku will still be around but take a Buu saga approach backseat.
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Post by Nero<>Akira » Thu Aug 17, 2017 1:05 pm

dbgtFO wrote:
Nero<>Akira wrote:
MisteryOne wrote: I honestly prefer it that way, I'm tired of the orange gi (yeah, even for Goku. The RoF outfit was better). Anyway it's just a cover, it may be different in the chapter themselves (I hope not)
I would've preferred if Goku kept his new outfit too and find it dumb Toyo just shelved it. Same with Vegeta. I love Goku's normal gi, but the new one just felt like a natural progression to his EOS look. Gohan with Goku's gi just looks the best out of all his looks.
We don't know why the RoF outfits were shelved and who wanted that to happen.
I wouldn't want Gohan in Goku's gi. He's his own man and should have a personal gi to reflect that like the one time blue gi with orange armbands Toriyama drew him with on an early Buu Arc illustration. That or his Saiyaman gi without scarf.

As for the supposed Tsuruian, who is it? The guy with the mustache? Somebody said it's the guy, that looks like Baby, so the orange guy??
I forgot about his saiyaman outfit. I really love that one when he doesn't have anything covering his face or head. But I think him being in Goku's attire fits so well too cause he respects him more than anyone else (even piccolo).

As far as the tuffle, there is no visual confirmation of how he looks.
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GodKaio-Ken wrote:
emperior wrote:I don't really like how "thick" Goku is in this poster. He looks way too bulked up in my opinion. His traps and neck are way too huge, if they just fixed those it would look much better.

Unfortunately most of the fans love to see the characters big and muscular.
Totally agree. I was honestly hoping for the body type of SSG with Black SSJ or SSG hair.

The eyes...I wanted the red SSG eyes but I'm not sure it matters too much.

Though generally posters tend to exaggerate a bit on muscles, not sure if thats common in DB but I see it in other mediums.
I honestly like "beefed up" Goku. But only when it plays into forms and/or techniques that actually have an effect on the story that feels natural, much like how he got jacked when he cranked up the Kaioken several notches. Not stuff like ASSJ or USSJ, which even in-universe are acknowledged as transformations not worthwhile.

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Post by Baggie_Saiyan » Thu Aug 17, 2017 1:06 pm

dbgtFO wrote: We don't know why the RoF outfits were shelved and who wanted that to happen.
I wouldn't want Gohan in Goku's gi. He's his own man and should have a personal gi to reflect that like the one time blue gi with orange armbands Toriyama drew him with on an early Buu Arc illustration. That or his Saiyaman gi without scarf.

As for the supposed Tsuruian, who is it? The guy with the mustache? Somebody said it's the guy, that looks like Baby, so the orange guy??
I think the accepted theory is that Toriyama couldn't come up with a good look for Vegetto and so went back, and now with the return of SSG and this new form we stuck with them.

And yes I agree the Saiyaman outfit minus the scarf is his best look, even better all black!!

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Post by MR.Mark » Thu Aug 17, 2017 1:06 pm

I personally hope this new limit breaker will now officially retire Goku's need to use the gold in Super, but that may be asking for to much.

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