"Dragon Ball Super" Series Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

[Chuquita]

I'd be fine with Buu arc Vegeta's outfit and Gokû's EoZ dougi. Almost anything but the stale outfits they're wearing now.

[HeroR]

The RoF outfits are ok, but I don't miss them at all. I do wish Vegeta would use his Boo Saga outfit more and that Goku would use his EoZ gi more.

Just a FYI, Vegeta wore that outfit in the Buu Saga since he wasn’t allowed to wear armor to the tourument.

[Chuquita]

I don't know what I'm arguing anymore. Everything you mention I already knew before. Only thing you didn't say was that Vegeta changed battle outfits noticeably each arc.

I guess my point is I'm bored of seeing Vegeta's Cell arc outfit and bored of seeing Gokû's generic dougi and wish they'd get something new to wear.

The point I was trying to make while Vegeta may have changed armors, Goku’s gi doesn’t change outside of the symbol until EOZ. So Goku’s gi didn’t really change in every saga. The Buu Saga was when several characters finally changed their outfits.

Not counting the symbol, Gokû's dougi sash changes from a tie to a cumberbund at some point (Cell arc?) but that's splitting hairs.

I'd just like to see some new outfits on them. Or EoZ ones.

[shadowmaria]

I don't know what I'm arguing anymore. Everything you mention I already knew before. Only thing you didn't say was that Vegeta changed battle outfits noticeably each arc.

I guess my point is I'm bored of seeing Vegeta's Cell arc outfit and bored of seeing Gokû's generic dougi and wish they'd get something new to wear.

The point I was trying to make while Vegeta may have changed armors, Goku’s gi doesn’t change outside of the symbol until EOZ. So Goku’s gi didn’t really change in every saga. The Buu Saga was when several characters finally changed their outfits.

Not counting the symbol, Gokû's dougi sash changes from a tie to a cumberbund at some point (Cell arc?) but that's splitting hairs.

I'd just like to see some new outfits on them. Or EoZ ones.

I too would like to see Vegeta fight in the Tournament of Power in his EoZ gear;

[Kinokima]

I'd love to see Vegeta's Buu outfit again that was my favorite.

I also wonder why they retired the Gray armour so quickly. Was it not popular or something? At least it was different. Same with Goku's Gi.

[hardcorefakes]

It is called a transformation in the teaser and by the writer on Twitter.

Ah I'm going with what the poster said from way back, the "kami no miwaza" term where "waza = technique"

It's literally called a new transformation on numerous different sources. They can't possibly make it any clearer than that.

[Chuquita]

I too would like to see Vegeta fight in the Tournament of Power in his EoZ gear;

EoZ outfit Vegeta's so good! I wish he would wear that at some point in Super.

[precita]

Bulma's EOZ design makes her look like an old hag. Most likely she'll keep her Super design when they get to or remake those last 3 episodes and continue from them.

Nobody wants to see, "Granny Bulma."

[Bullza]

If anyone needs a new appearance it's Piccolo. He's looked the exact same for 30 years.

[shadowmaria]

I too would like to see Vegeta fight in the Tournament of Power in his EoZ gear;

EoZ outfit Vegeta's so good! I wish he would wear that at some point in Super.

Hell, in the manga, he wore his GT outfit

[fadeddreams5]

I don't get it. Goku nowadays freely uses his kaioken, almost like an additional transformation. However, he never ONCE used it against Black. I recall him using it against Merged Zamasu in a quick burst, which makes sense, given the risk of utilizing it that was mentioned right before that arc. Now, it seems they completely retconned this for the sake of having it on screen a lot.

[Lord Frieza]

I don't get it. Goku nowadays freely uses his kaioken, almost like an additional transformation. However, he never ONCE used it against Black. I recall him using it against Merged Zamasu in a quick burst, which makes sense, given the risk of utilizing it that was mentioned right before that arc. Now, it seems they completely retconned this for the sake of having it on screen a lot.

Well its been some time since then. Even if his fighting sense has gotten rusty with no new people to fight befor the ToP, nothing was stopping him from trying to master it further. From the way Goku talked about it he'd only resuntly begun working on his Blue/KK combo to use on Beerus, thats why its success rate was so low and it was only after extended use of kkx10 that the ill effects started to kick in.

As far as we know he's only ever busted out the basic x2 in this arc, which should be far more stable. If he's continued perfecting it since his fight with Zamasu, then in time SSBKKx2 should become much easier to pull of, just as Base/KK got easier control during his trip to namek. By extenstion his control of SSBKKx10 has likely imporved to.

[GodVegetto91]

If anyone needs a new appearance it's Piccolo. He's looked the exact same for 30 years.

Well then you should definitely need to watch Anime War. You'd love it.

[Simere]

I don't get it. Goku nowadays freely uses his kaioken, almost like an additional transformation. However, he never ONCE used it against Black. I recall him using it against Merged Zamasu in a quick burst, which makes sense, given the risk of utilizing it that was mentioned right before that arc. Now, it seems they completely retconned this for the sake of having it on screen a lot.

He said he'd need to spend more time working on SSBKK after his fight with Hit. Not enough time had passed by time Black came around. Enough time passed by time the ToP did.

It seems really simple and straightforward to me. For the most part, it seems as though it's those who desperately wanted him to never use SSBKK again who say it doesn't make sense. The same ones selectively quoting King Kai.

[kinisking]

Compared to the current crop of garbage we are getting these are godly. Characters actually look like themselves and drawn nicely and these pieces have some actual atmosphere to them.

Compare to this piece of hot garbage for eg what even is that SS4?:
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I like that picture. I’ll take more of that garbage.

Got to agree. The ss4 is the only had one.

[Xeztin]

I love their RF outfits.

It isn't known why they got dropped as far as I know.

My guess is someone high up is blinded by "nostalgia".

I wish they'd have new outfits. Help give Super its own identity.

I think it has to do with the cases of fusion and battle damage. You can’t do much damage to gokus rof outfit without blowing his top off. Especially manga wise

[Chuquita]

I love their RF outfits.

It isn't known why they got dropped as far as I know.

My guess is someone high up is blinded by "nostalgia".

I wish they'd have new outfits. Help give Super its own identity.

I think it has to do with the cases of fusion and battle damage. You can’t do much damage to gokus rof outfit without blowing his top off. Especially manga wise

Probably. Toriyama not wanting to be bothered with designing a new outfit for Vegetto sounds about right.

I mean, Vegetto has DBHeroes exclusive outfit (along with Goku and Vegeta) but my guess has always been that Toriyama has 0 input into DBHeroes.

[HeroR]

I think it has to do with the cases of fusion and battle damage. You can’t do much damage to gokus rof outfit without blowing his top off. Especially manga wise

If that was the case, they would be no point of them keeping their old outfits for this saga. And this theory never made much sense since the outfits they're wearing aren't even the same as their Buu Saga outfits, especially Vegeta.

[Artorias]

Now this is what you call good promotional art!!
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That looks absolutely horrendous. If that's your idea of "good art" than i am at a loss for words.

I honestly can't tell if you're joking or not. This is some of the best modern Dragon Ball art I've ever seen...calling it "horrendous" is just wrong. Not your style? Fine. Horrendous? Not even close.

[MaskedRider]

Now this is what you call good promotional art!!
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Is that official? It looks so much like those...I forgot his DA username SalvorMakado (???) DBS in Z style art. I like it a lot, not because it looks like Z, but it looks so organic.